Photos of First Set of Upgraded X5 X6 M S63/N63 V8 Turbos/Compressor Wheels by ALSA

[m5james]

Exactly, No one wants to say anything about these, as the part numbers for the different turbos is like sand script. It took me having M5 turbos sent to us, after supposed M5 turbos were already sent to us, then more cores were bought, etc etc. I know others are in the process of doing these ugrades. Let them figure out the differences like we did, time spent. As for the website, they are right there. Been up there for a solid 9 months or so. We have these parts in stock, we can ship a set in 2-4 days. Eurocharged actually emailed about a set yesterday.

I found it, I just looked at the wrong dropdown. Have your IT change "ceramic" to the correct spelling. So $5k gets me a rebuild, clipped wheels, and then after that I've got no choice but to spray meth in order to make up for the fueling that the stock system can't handle as of yet. How many tuners have a tune ready to utilize these upgrades or who do you suggest as a tuner then?

[Tony@VargasTurboTech]

$5k is a lot for a rebuild and clipped wheel. I can upgrade my Harley F150 from the Kenne Bell 2.3l to custom headers, turbo and a tune for that much :-/

if you think its a rebuild and clipped wheel, I say build yourself a set. If I had 5 cents for everytime we have heard that. Bowing out of this convo, its a lot of talky. Sticky, I'lllet you know when I get another set of M5 turbos.

[Sticky]

Why do you say that? Both have been very responsive, same price, includes a handheld and lifetime adjustments. The biggest reason why I'm considering ESS over Euro is simply because ESS has a facility in CA, so I was thinking I could go there and get tune revisions via a dyno vs Euro being in TX.

Well there's this: http://www.bimmerboost.com/content.p...ith-more-power

And this: http://www.bimmerboost.com/content.p...ESS-guinea-pig

And then this: http://www.bimmerboost.com/content.p...pgrade-package

And that watching the BMW aftermarket for over 15 years now ESS is consistently the most disappointing tuner.

Eurocharged tunes a wider variety of cars and has more experience, simply a fact.

I don't know of any ESS headquarters in California but in Arizona.

There are about 5 tuners I would choose ahead of ESS for the S63TU. Maybe more.

[m5james]

if you think its a rebuild and clipped wheel, I say build yourself a set. If I had 5 cents for everytime we have heard that. Bowing out of this convo, its a lot of talky. Sticky, I'lllet you know when I get another set of M5 turbos.

Obviously that's as likely to happen as Sticky buying a set for paperweights on his desk.

[m5james]

Well there's this: http://www.bimmerboost.com/content.p...ith-more-power

And this: http://www.bimmerboost.com/content.p...ESS-guinea-pig

And then this: http://www.bimmerboost.com/content.p...pgrade-package

And that watching the BMW aftermarket for over 15 years now ESS is consistently the most disappointing tuner.

Eurocharged tunes a wider variety of cars and has more experience, simply a fact.

I don't know of any ESS headquarters in California but in Arizona.

There are about 5 tuners I would choose ahead of ESS for the S63TU. Maybe more.

Noted...I like Euro's logo better anyways :-P

[m5james]

Bumping this just to show that of someone chooses to attempt to upgrade to M5 headers that in fact the turbos are needed as well. I can't confirm Tony's claims just yet about about it being more trouble than what it's worth, connection points, turbo differencea internally, etc vs just upgrading the stock X5M turbos. Ultimately the pros outweigh the cons for me though...BMW must have upgraded from rubber to stainless lines on their engine update for a reason and the increased header flow had to account for some gains, so I'll still be looking into the swap.

[Sticky]

Bumping this just to show that of someone chooses to attempt to upgrade to M5 headers that in fact the turbos are needed as well. I can't confirm Tony's claims just yet about about it being more trouble than what it's worth, connection points, turbo differencea internally

It still seems worth it though...

[Hatake]

St1 - chip tuning
St2 - downpipes + chip tuning
St3 - manifold M5 + downpipes + chip tuning
St4 - upgrade turbo + manifold M5 + downpipes + chip tuning

[Sticky]

St1 - chip tuning
St2 - downpipes + chip tuning
St2 - manifold M5 + downpipes + chip tuning
St3 - upgrade turbo + manifold M5 + downpipes + chip tuning

Um.. ok. And?

[Hatake]

more faster if change manifold

[Hatake]

I use stok turbo / not used M5 turbo

[m5james]

The flanges look different...are you saying it's not needed? What about what Tony said that the turbos are different between the X5M and M5? Pure said that the X5M and M5 turbos are the same after their stage 1 rebuild, so someone is either misinformed or lying to increase profits.

[m5james]

Bump for Hatake to elaborate. I've got a set of M5/S63TU headers but per the picture above, I'd have to get custom machining done to mate the X5M/S63 turbos onto the M5/S63TU headers. I've sourced a set of Pure stage 2 turbos from an M5/S63TU but Tony@Vargas says that it's not as simple as bolting the headers and turbos into my X5M as he said things don't necessarily line up.

[Sticky]

@Hatake