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    BMW prices the 2016 F87 M2 at $51,700 MSRP making it the best value in the M lineup

    How does $51,700 for the upcoming 2016 F87 M2 sound? What do you get for that money? A 3.0 liter turbocharged inline-6 with output of 365 horsepower and 343 lb-ft of torque which no doubt is underrated. That money also buys the lightest M car in the lineup short of the M4 GTS which is more than twice the price but we want to see independent weight tests for both.

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    You also get a car for the money capable of lapping the Nurburgring in under 8 minutes. With some aftermarket suspension tweaks and maybe the addition of a water injection system one can expect the M2 to be a potent track car.

    The engine itself is a closed deck block based on the N55. BMW did not make the same mistake with the M2 as they did with the 1M where they just used an engine they had laying around only changing the software. The M2 gets a real M motor despite not it not having an M designation as odd as that is.

    The 2016 X4 M40i will share the same engine and hit the streets next month which is before the M2's expected April debut.

    Say hello to the best performance value in the M lineup.

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    THE 2016 NORTH AMERICAN INTERNATIONAL AUTO SHOW IN DETROIT:
    - BMW to announce pricing of the all-new 2016 BMW M2.
    - BMW to announce pricing of the all-new 2016 BMW X4 M40i.

    Woodcliff Lake, N.J.: January 11, 2016 10:30 am EST /7:30 am PDT ... Today, the all-new BMW M2 and all-new BMW X4 M40i made their world debut at the 2016 North American International Auto Show in Detroit.

    The 2016 BMW M2.
    Making its highly anticipated world debut, the first ever BMW M2 features the renowned BMW M performance complimented by a sleek interior and exterior design. The new entry model of the BMW M GmbH is perfectly aligned with M tradition ensuring unbeatable driving dynamics on the roads and the track, embodying the true DNA of BMW M vehicles. A newly developed M TwinPower Turbo technology 3-liter, 6-cylinder engine produces 365 bHP and 343 lb-ft of torque between 1,400 and 5,560 with an overboost function raising this figure to 369 lb-ft between 1,450 and 4,750 catapulting the high performance vehicle from 0-60 mph in 4.2 seconds ( M DCT) with a top speed of 155 mph. Inspired by its motorsport roots, the BMW M2 sets the pace in its segment when it comes to agility, driving feeling, directional stability, steering precision and controllability at the limit, without any compromise in everyday use.

    The 2016 BMW M2 will be available at authorized BMW centers starting at $51,700 plus Destination and Handling starting in April 2016.

    The 2016 BMW X4 M40i.
    The cutting-edge drive technology in the new BMW X4 M40i guarantees the free-revving thrill typical of a BMW M developed motor and its outstanding power delivery. With 355 hp and 343 lb-ft of torque, the newly developed M Performance TwinPower Turbo technology inline 6-cylinder engine will also be making its world debut. Reaching an electronically limited top speed of 150 mph, the BMW X4 M40i delivers best-in-class acceleration, traveling from 0-60 mph in just 4.7 seconds. Design and technology are also at their peak in the BMW X4 M40i and include a powerful yet efficient exterior chassis tuned to M Performance specifications, BMW ConnectedDrive, intelligent xDrive and TwinScroll turbo technology.

    The 2016 BMW X4 M40i will be available at certified BMW dealers in February 2016 starting at $57,800 plus Destination and Handling.

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    definitely a car to bring me back to BMW, especially at that price.

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    I like the car but I don't really buy that its a "real M motor". Isn't it just a B58 with rods and pistons from the S55? Is the head any different than a normal B58?
    Not trying to hate but I think if it was a real M motor they would give it an S code.

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    Interesting, we already have a turbo from a B58 heading our way for some R&D thanks to some connected friends, hoping the M2 uses the same turbo.

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    considering my e92 coupe was 52k this is a great deal and my car was a $#@!ty deal. I bought i used at much less but that was the sticker.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by subaru335i Click here to enlarge
    I like the car but I don't really buy that its a "real M motor". Isn't it just a B58 with rods and pistons from the S55? Is the head any different than a normal B58?
    Not trying to hate but I think if it was a real M motor they would give it an S code.
    +1. is this car a b58 with s55 internals? i was under the impression it was an n55 motor....guess i was wrong!
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    Yeah, someone had leaked the build sheet on an M2 and it had the motor designated as an N55. This is interesting information for sure. I assume it's not getting an S designation because it's going to be used in non-M cars also.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
    Yeah, someone had leaked the build sheet on an M2 and it had the motor designated as an N55. This is interesting information for sure. I assume it's not getting an S designation because it's going to be used in non-M cars also.
    That is odd because if it is an N55 I would doubt it would be closed deck because why redesign the N55 to close the deck instead of just use the B58 block?
    If it is just an N55 with forged pistons, rods, and crank then it really won't be any more "M" than the 1M was. A cool car and I would totally get one but a parts bin car nonetheless. I hope I am proven wrong.

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    All BMW did was take the s55 and swap turbos/intercooler. N55/S55/N54 share the same the same bore and stroke.
    http://www.bimmerboost.com/content.p...ds-curb-weight

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Abacus38 Click here to enlarge
    All BMW did was take the s55 and swap turbos/intercooler. N55/S55/N54 share the same the same bore and stroke.
    http://www.bimmerboost.com/content.p...ds-curb-weight
    So you think the block, rotating assembly, AND head is exactly the same as the S55? Then why not call it an S55?
    Maybe it is an S55 lower end (block and internals) with an N55 head. That would probable make the most sense with the official info we know. Would explain the closed deck, lower redline, and the N55 engine code.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by subaru335i Click here to enlarge
    So you think the block, rotating assembly, AND head is exactly the same as the S55? Then why not call it an S55?
    Maybe it is an S55 lower end (block and internals) with an N55 head. That would probable make the most sense with the official info we know. Would explain the closed deck, lower redline, and the N55 engine code.
    I believe that's exactly wat it is

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by subaru335i Click here to enlarge
    I like the car but I don't really buy that its a "real M motor". Isn't it just a B58 with rods and pistons from the S55? Is the head any different than a normal B58?
    Not trying to hate but I think if it was a real M motor they would give it an S code.
    Um no it's not a B58 and I have no idea where this is coming from as it's been detailed many times already it has the same bore and stroke as an N55/N54/S55 and a closed deck block: http://www.bimmerboost.com/content.p...ds-curb-weight

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
    Yeah, someone had leaked the build sheet on an M2 and it had the motor designated as an N55. This is interesting information for sure. I assume it's not getting an S designation because it's going to be used in non-M cars also.
    Maybe that is why it doesn't have the 'S' designation but BMW used 'S' motor in non-M cars before...

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by subaru335i Click here to enlarge
    That is odd because if it is an N55 I would doubt it would be closed deck because why redesign the N55 to close the deck instead of just use the B58 block?
    If it is just an N55 with forged pistons, rods, and crank then it really won't be any more "M" than the 1M was. A cool car and I would totally get one but a parts bin car nonetheless. I hope I am proven wrong.
    Because they can just use the S55 block? The B58 has nothing to do with it.

    As already explained it has S55 internals but with a smaller single turbo setup to keep the S55 on top. Redline is bumped to 7000.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Because they can just use the S55 block? The B58 has nothing to do with it.

    As already explained it has S55 internals but with a smaller single turbo setup to keep the S55 on top. Redline is bumped to 7000.
    I realize my mistake in the earlier posts, forget I mentioned the B58. I forgot it had a smaller bore and longer stroke.
    But do you agree with my final comment then?
    "Maybe it is an S55 lower end (block and internals) with an N55 head. That would probably make the most sense with the official info we know. Would explain the closed deck, lower redline, and the N55 engine code."

    I'm just confused because if the block, rotating assembly, and head are all exactly the same as the S55 why wouldn't they call it an S55 of some sort? Giving it an N55 engine code implies there is something significant re-used from the N55 and since its not the internals/rotating assembly and since they said the block is closed deck then it must be the top end.
    I am not complaining or bitching or talking $#@! about it I just am curious. I assume the S55 head flows a lot better than the N55 so maybe they reused it to keep the S55/M3/4 on top as you said.





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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by subaru335i Click here to enlarge
    Maybe it is an S55 lower end (block and internals) with an N55 head. That would probably make the most sense with the official info we know. Would explain the closed deck, lower redline, and the N55 engine code."

    I'm just confused because if the block, rotating assembly, and head are all exactly the same as the S55 why wouldn't they call it an S55 of some sort?
    I'm confused as well as to why it doesn't have an 'S' designation as it clearly should. I do not know. I've thought about writing an article on this topic but I was waiting to see if maybe someone at BMW lost their job over this first as it makes no sense.

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by subaru335i Click here to enlarge
    I assume the S55 head flows a lot better than the N55 so maybe they reused it to keep the S55/M3/4 on top as you said.
    It could be that rather than using the S55 block with an N55 head they used the S55 head which in theory would make it cheaper to assemble. If so, the valvetrain is good or more revs in stock form.

    I don't know. Nobody has a full breakdown and BMW is not going to help the aftermarket out by telling us.

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    This is going to be interesting!
    Especially in the tuning aspect

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Tony@VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    Interesting, we already have a turbo from a B58 heading our way for some R&D thanks to some connected friends, hoping the M2 uses the same turbo.
    Hoping so too!

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    Trading my 1M in for an M2. The M2 is on a boat right now heading to the US!!!!! Cant wait!
    ​#Chuckstrong

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by KB Click here to enlarge
    Trading my 1M in for an M2. The M2 is on a boat right now heading to the US!!!!! Cant wait!
    Well, congrats.

    You'll finally have an M car with a real M motor Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Well, congrats.

    You'll finally have an M car with a real M motor Click here to enlarge
    Herp Derp! I just hope its as fun as the 1M is. I'm getting a launch car so had no choice on how it was configured so it will be a fully loaded AW M2. Haven't driven a DCT but I know it will be faster, hoping it will be as engaging...don't want to get bored!

    I also hope to find out that the M2 is using a larger turbo than what is in the standard N55. I think it might because it really doesn't make sense to overhaul the engine like they did but not upgrade the turbo. We will see.
    ​#Chuckstrong

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by KB Click here to enlarge
    Herp Derp! I just hope its as fun as the 1M is. I'm getting a launch car so had no choice on how it was configured so it will be a fully loaded AW M2. Haven't driven a DCT but I know it will be faster, hoping it will be as engaging...don't want to get bored!

    I also hope to find out that the M2 is using a larger turbo than what is in the standard N55. I think it might because it really doesn't make sense to overhaul the engine like they did but not upgrade the turbo. We will see.
    Thats what i think so too, doesnt make sense with all the S55 parts its using too.

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