A new contender enters - Introducing the Ventura Motorsports E9X N54 top mount single turbo kit - Comp 6465 turbo shows 593 wheel horsepower

[Payam@BMS]

fastgti69 2 questions for ya

1. Has this been test fit on an E8x?
2. Will you offer smaller or different sized turbos? I'm not looking for more than 550-600WHP and can use whatever octane is needed. Spool is of paramount importance to me (not that the provided turbo seems to be spooling poorly!).

EDIT: My bad dude, your original post answers the latter question. I need coffee.

@Sticky I wonder why I don't get tagged mentions anymore in my notifications, does this happen after vendor account?

Yep, for your setup I would go with a Comp CTX4 6062. Rated at 670hp, so it's good for 550-600whp for sure. Spool should be much better I would say about 3-500 rpm sooner spool than my current 6465 setup.

We have not test fitted on e8x series yet, looking for a beta to come in house. We just need the car for about 3-4 weeks to make the kit and verify all fitment. From what I have seen, they look exactly the same. Maybe a little tweaks but I don't see anything different with the sizing under the hood.

[Torgus]

I don't think anyone has spent $50k for 700 whp so I don't even know where you are getting that from.

50k comes from gintani tt kit, built engine, built dct. Is my cost estimate off?

[rawad1017]

50k comes from gintani tt kit, built engine, built dct. Is my cost estimate off?

your power estimate is off, that's 1000whp territory

[Torgus]

your power estimate is off, that's 1000whp territory

Got a dyno of that?

Fine replace the tt kit with their 700whp supercharged solution. That has got to be close to if not 50k right?

[Payam@BMS]

Got a dyno of that?

Fine replace the tt kit with their 700whp supercharged solution. That has got to be close to if not 50k right?

I would say close to 35-40k at the most with a blower kit, proper built motor and DCT, something like Stickys setup.

[Torgus]

I would say close to 35-40k at the most with a blower kit, proper built motor and DCT, something like Stickys setup.

Installed and tuned by Gintani? I was under the impression it was more expensive than that.

[ChuckD05]

duuuuped

[Sticky]

@Sticky I wonder why I don't get tagged mentions anymore in my notifications, does this happen after vendor account?

Yep, for your setup I would go with a Comp CTX4 6062. Rated at 670hp, so it's good for 550-600whp for sure. Spool should be much better I would say about 3-500 rpm sooner spool than my current 6465 setup.

We have not test fitted on e8x series yet, looking for a beta to come in house. We just need the car for about 3-4 weeks to make the kit and verify all fitment. From what I have seen, they look exactly the same. Maybe a little tweaks but I don't see anything different with the sizing under the hood.

Let me look into this and see if it's a bug.

[Sticky]

50k comes from gintani tt kit, built engine, built dct. Is my cost estimate off?

Even if you were accurate about $50k in your example how does that get you 700 whp? That's more like 1000+ whp.

[Sticky]

Got a dyno of that?

Fine replace the tt kit with their 700whp supercharged solution. That has got to be close to if not 50k right?

Got a price quote? You are playing a 'what if' game and then ask for a dyno?

What 700 whp solution do they have for $50k? Nobody has that because it doesn't exist.

[Sticky]

Installed and tuned by Gintani? I was under the impression it was more expensive than that.

Pricing depends on options. How much do you have and how fast do you want to go?

The point is 700 whp for $50k is idiotic. Secondly, even if you do spend $50k or whatever you spend you're going to have a hell of a lot more than 700 whp. Have fun making up numbers.

[Sticky]

I would say close to 35-40k at the most with a blower kit, proper built motor and DCT, something like Stickys setup.

It's more but it depends on bells and whistles.

You can do a cheapo build like some other built motor supercharged M3's out there for less than this. You also will get what you pay for.

[Torgus]

It's more but it depends on bells and whistles.

The point is 700 whp for $50k is idiotic.

Ok so more than 35-40k got it. So 50k is idiotic for 700 but 40-50k is not?

[rawad1017]

for 35-40k you're getting 800+whp..just stop @Torgus different platforms cost different amounts of money to make fast cars out of..

[Torgus]

for 35-40k you're getting 800+whp..just stop @Torgus different platforms cost different amounts of money to make fast cars out of..

Got a dyno of that bro? Or are you just guesstimating?

Uhhh we're talking about a 700whp supercharged solution here. Nothing higher. I'm just having a discussion regarding the estimated costs to get the S65 in the m3 w/ dct to 700whp. If you don't want to partake in the discussion don't. I am well aware different platforms cost different amounts. Hence the discussion.

[Payam@BMS]

Installed and tuned by Gintani? I was under the impression it was more expensive than that.

Yea, in house and bundle builds are usually cheaper. They will cut a deal with the customer for a fact, I know I would.

13k for SC kit, 10-12k for built motor, 10k possibly for DCT.

It's more but it depends on bells and whistles.

You can do a cheapo build like some other built motor supercharged M3's out there for less than this. You also will get what you pay for.

Just for basics, no special exhaust or blower etc.

[rawad1017]

Got a dyno of that bro? Or are you just guesstimating?

Uhhh we're talking about a 700whp supercharged solution here. Nothing higher. I'm just having a discussion regarding the estimated costs to get the S65 in the m3 w/ dct to 700whp. If you don't want to partake in the discussion don't. I am well aware different platforms cost different amounts. Hence the discussion.

you had to do it in this thread? because last i checked it was about a top mount single turbo kit for the n54 not a supercharger kit for the s65..

there's no "were talking about supercharged solutions for 700whp" there's just you makin bad guesses with ridiculous numbers

[Tony@VargasTurboTech]

Every thread will always turn into this eventually, its the price you pay to be on Bimmerboost...

[Torgus]

you had to do it in this thread? because last i checked it was about a top mount single turbo kit for the n54 not a supercharger kit for the s65..

there's no "were talking about supercharged solutions for 700whp" there's just you makin bad guesses with ridiculous numbers

@rawad1017 we obviously see things differently and you disagree constantly with me. i'm just going to be ignoring your posts from now on so you can stop bothering to quote or mention me. k thx bro. go install some more cf emblems on your ride.

Every thread will always turn into this eventually, its the price you pay to be on Bimmerboost...

This. My understanding is this is mainly because the majority of the user base all have N54s and likes to poke fun at the S65 and the price per hp. Every thread literally gets derailed and this is allowed by Sticky. Most forums this is not allowed and the moderators make a point to keep things on track and on focus. Discussion and drama keep this place popular and keeps the hits coming in. I like the way the forum is run. The discussions are allowed to naturally evolve and continue.

[Sticky]

Ok so more than 35-40k got it. So 50k is idiotic for 700 but 40-50k is not?

You're not grasping it but I guess that isn't surprising.

40, 50, whatever, makes no sense for 700 but I don't even know where the 700 number comes from so you can just play with that figure until you're satisfied I guess.

[Sticky]

Got a dyno of that bro? Or are you just guesstimating?

Uhhh we're talking about a 700whp supercharged solution here. Nothing higher. I'm just having a discussion regarding the estimated costs to get the S65 in the m3 w/ dct to 700whp. If you don't want to partake in the discussion don't. I am well aware different platforms cost different amounts. Hence the discussion.

You're not in the market for it and you are never going to be so what does it matter?

What does it cost to get an E46 M3 to 1000+? Ever see what an HPF Stage IV build cost was? Or what some of these new builds from others go for? It isn't cheap but if you know where else you're getting 1000+ wheel horsepower on a BMW for less please inform all of us.

If you want to boost high revving naturally aspirated motors prepare to pay. Also prepare for more horsepower than you will get elsewhere.

$ per horsepower is something people with used Mustangs talk about.

[Sticky]

Got a dyno of that bro? Or are you just guesstimating?

You don't know how to read dyno graphs as if you could you would know he isn't guesstimating he's actually being conservative. But whatever...

[The Ghost]

You're not grasping it but I guess that isn't surprising.

40, 50, whatever, makes no sense for 700 but I don't even know where the 700 number comes from so you can just play with that figure until you're satisfied I guess.

Come on now. The 7xx comes from that is the most anyone has actually put down on a dyno.

Regardless of reasons (6krpms, clutches not holdong, etc.) or what it has the potential to do, at this time (unless someone has a dyno showing otherwise) $30-50k+ has resulted in 7xx whp on the S56.

[Sticky]

Come on now. The 7xx comes from that is the most anyone has actually put down on a dyno.

Clearly dynos control horsepower.

Regardless of reasons (6krpms, clutches not holdong, etc.) or what it has the potential to do, at this time (unless someone has a dyno showing otherwise) $30-50k+ has resulted in 7xx whp on the S56.

Cool story.

[Torgus]

@Sticky can you please explain to us exactly how much it costs to get a e92 m3 to 700whp with a DCT? The exact number, installed, tuned, walk out the door price that is also daily driveable. That is what I was curious about. Nothing more, nothing less, I was not comparing it to the N54 or any other platform.