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12-11-2013, 01:35 PM #1
New M156 supercharger option from Loewenstein Manufaktur - LM63-700 Kompressor
Never heard of Loewenstein Manufaktur? BenzBoost had not up to this point either. Apparently they have a supercharger system capable of 702 horsepower for AMG M156 motors. Do they back this claim up with a dynograph? No. Do they have any performance figures to show? No. Does that mean this isn't a good system? No. Looking at the pictures below the hardware certainly looks to be well engineered and the system is packaged well under the hood.
That said, BenzBoost would certainly like more details. The system is based on a Magnunson TVS roots supercharger as stated by Loewenstein. This is the same TVS blower that Eaton makes. BenzBoost would speculate then that this system is using the same Eaton blower as Kleemann. Further speculation would be that this system is very similar to Kleemann's. How similar, who knows at this point.
Regardless, this is another option on the market. What the pricing is and the actual performance figures are in comparison to the established entities on the market we will hopefully see soon. What is certain is that the M156 segment continues to get more competitive by the day.
Loewenstein compressor kit:
- Magnuson Roots positive displacement compressors (positive displacement supercharger)
- CNC machined billet aluminum intake manifold
- Integrated intercooler
- Separate charge air cooling-water circuit with expansion tank
- Charge air heat exchanger in vehicle front mask
- Charge air cooling system water pump
- Cast aluminum throttle intake manifold Y
- Electronic Performance auxiliary control unit
- Electronic servo motor for by-pass valve control
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12-11-2013, 03:42 PM #2
looks good. I wonder if they tried anything for the SLS.
The system look different than Kleeman. Look at the rear air duct, its replaced by the factory one and is attached with the throttle bodies.
Again, I believe the twin screw systems like the ones offered from Weistec works best for these engines
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12-11-2013, 03:46 PM #3
I believe if power potential is the main goal then Weistec can not be beat. The 3.0 liter option is unrivaled in the marketplace. Due to the high volumetric efficiency of the M156/M159 I definitely would want the biggest blower I could get. Hell, if there was even a way to go bigger than 3.0 I'd do it.
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12-11-2013, 03:58 PM #4
I just answered my own question. It seems that they do have a supercharger for the SLS according to their website..is it working? I doubt it!
http://loewenstein-manufaktur.de/index.php?id=24&L=1
I think they are full of BS now that I browsed through their website. They are advertising an exustt headers for the M156 from MBH. The photo of the headers are SL63 headers and I think they are the exact same headers that are currently on my brother's @Jacob502 SL63. I'll recognize that photo from anywhere. Its on Mike's official website. Why is it on this no heard of German "tuner"?
They don't even mention MBH and they are advertising it as if its their own!
I'll let my brother know about this and inform Mike
this is the photo btw:
Those are M156 SL63 headrs. @Sticky, those are the exact headers in the photo that are currently on my brother's SL63. You can verify it with HooleyboyWorld Fastest (NA) SLS AMG in a Standing 1/2 Mile
Trap Speed 254.81 Km/hr
Qatar Mile- NOV, 30th 2013
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12-11-2013, 04:02 PM #5
@Jacob502, Photo of your headers are on some German website
. Looks like they made it for you
World Fastest (NA) SLS AMG in a Standing 1/2 Mile
Trap Speed 254.81 Km/hr
Qatar Mile- NOV, 30th 2013
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12-11-2013, 04:05 PM #6
@Sticky, check this. This is a photo of my brother's Headers on the MBH website before Mike shipped it out to him::
http://www.mbhmotorsports.com/#!sl63...e-headers/c2ew
Exact same photo manWorld Fastest (NA) SLS AMG in a Standing 1/2 Mile
Trap Speed 254.81 Km/hr
Qatar Mile- NOV, 30th 2013
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12-11-2013, 04:16 PM #7
They don't even have an Intercooler and are only using the factory radiator for cooling and some "intercooler" placed over the kompressor . Some engineering
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12-11-2013, 04:47 PM #8
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12-12-2013, 12:04 AM #9
WTF??? Ahahahahaaha
Those are my headers!Weistec Supercharged SL63 AMG
Fastest Overall Mercedes SL Class VBOX 60-130, 6.86- Dragtimes.com, FEB 16 2013
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12-12-2013, 07:05 AM #10
Damn @Jacob502 you have been rapped by these guys and they have your panties(headers) as proof of the rape. LOL. Thats so FAULKED up STICKy this is funny jajajajajajaja
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12-12-2013, 09:02 AM #11
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12-12-2013, 10:36 AM #12
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12-12-2013, 10:40 AM #13
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12-12-2013, 10:51 AM #15
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a good investigative reporter finds stories and does not wait for the story to come to them...not too worry as there will be nothing public to announce..
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12-12-2013, 10:54 AM #16
True but a good forum administrator doesn't release information his vendors do not want him to.
Unfortunately I have multiple roles to fill here and multiples things to balance.
If you want me to talk to them for my own personal information that's something else entirely.
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12-12-2013, 03:02 PM #17
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12-12-2013, 03:11 PM #18
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It very well could be that this German company just pulled a picture off the MBH site and are using it for marketing. But it also stands to reason that they have a deal/agreement with MBH to resell/rebrand MBH headers as their own.
You might want to do a bit more research before jumping to conclusions.
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12-12-2013, 05:25 PM #19
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12-12-2013, 08:08 PM #20
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12-12-2013, 08:18 PM #22
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12-12-2013, 08:20 PM #23
Welcome...
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