HPF Stage 2 Feramic vs. ClutchMasters FX-850 - which one?

[dzenno@PTF]

Hey guys, thought I'd ask for your opinion here..i'm leaning towards the HPF Feramic Stage2 at the moment given my car is a daily driver but beaten on a lot...i'd use a new DMF for it so total price is around $2.5k for clutch kit+oem flywheel...so, no chatter, as smooth as it can be...I'm just not sure how this clutch will fare at the drag strip though with some launches and am afraid it may give out in that respect...tons of boosted HPF m3 guys are running it and having nothing but good results with it...thing is I'm not sure many are hitting the dragstrip but that's just me...

the other option, fx-850 twin disk (1 ceramic back plate, 1 fiber tuff plate facing the flywheel), looks like a heavy duty street+race clutch that'll definitely be harder on the leg and it requires a lightweight flywheel which may/may not impact drag racing...price wise it'll come out to about the same for me in the end as the HPF+OEM flywheel...

so far I had a stock clutch lasted 75,000km, then a clutchmasters fx400 6 puck ceramic that died after only 4500km but CM warrantied the kit and sent me a new one (so great customer service there, no fuss, i did lose labour money though obviously), and currently the car has the ACT street with the OEM DMF which was resurfaced and its lasted 40-45,000km now and its just started to slip a bit in 5th and 6th...i can still drive on it but its on its way out...

what would you go with? I almost put the order through with Branden@HPF yesterday but his line dropped and I'm waiting for him to get back to me...

[themyst]

i know 3 people with the FX400, all of them died prematurely. I wouldn't buy anything CM, sorry to say. That NLS you're doing quite a bit of lately isn't gonna make things much better.

I would give the HPF a try. Probably expensive as hell but i'm sure you'll get what you pay for.

[Laloosh]

Just becuase your clutch slips when you load up 5th or 6th doesnt mean it will give out any time soon. Its when you start slipping at strip, thats when its time to go shopping

[dzenno@PTF]

i know 3 people with the FX400, all of them died prematurely. I wouldn't buy anything CM, sorry to say. That NLS you're doing quite a bit of lately isn't gonna make things much better.

NLS is actually JUST configured properly...all this time its been off in the settings i just configured it after the last drag strip day when I ran that 126.6mph, sucks...

Just becuase your clutch slips when you load up 5th or 6th doesnt mean it will give out any time soon. Its when you start slipping at strip, thats when its time to go shopping

plan is to order one and get it here so i have something in my hands when it gives out and not waiting for a week or two to get it once the car is up on a lift

[mazdaspeed6]

give hpf a try

[dzenno@PTF]

Ordered hpf stage 2 feramic through Branden...twin disk would be inappropriate in a daily driven car like mine and in addition to that given the type of driving I do it probably wouldn't last in stop/go traffic and neither would my left leg

[Brey335i]

I think you made a good choice. Time will tell. Any warranty with the HPF unit?

[dzenno@PTF]

Just like any clutch company i'm sure

[n54BoostOnCoke]

Just like any clutch company i'm sure

How much was it ? and is it you with some kind of module where you don't have to press clutch ? If yes how do you like it ? Thanks ! I'm deciding between manual 335is or 1m, 335is DCT or m3 dct right now ! You think 335is dct fbo+ meth will be quicker from a roll than auto or manual ? Thanks !

[654]

Why not resurface the stock fw?

[dzenno@PTF]

Why not resurface the stock fw?

Already did it once and it was pretty beat up last time but the shop pulled it off...pretty sure this time around its done...I want to do it right, clutch isn't cheap, I'm trying to find out for sure if the 1M clutch (5lb lighter than regular n54 clutch) fits without issues and I'd go for that

[Brey335i]

How much was it ? and is it you with some kind of module where you don't have to press clutch ? If yes how do you like it ? Thanks ! I'm deciding between manual 335is or 1m, 335is DCT or m3 dct right now ! You think 335is dct fbo+ meth will be quicker from a roll than auto or manual ? Thanks !

I'd get a manual. For big power, the automatic is a PITA

[dzenno@PTF]

Already did it once and it was pretty beat up last time but the shop pulled it off...pretty sure this time around its done...I want to do it right, clutch isn't cheap, I'm trying to find out for sure if the 1M clutch (5lb lighter than regular n54 clutch) fits without issues and I'd go for that

I just noticed i messed up in this post i'm trying to find if the 1m "flywheel" fits on the regular N54 so that I can fit the HPF clutch kit (disk+pressure plate) on it...

[dzenno@PTF]

How much was it ? and is it you with some kind of module where you don't have to press clutch ? If yes how do you like it ? Thanks ! I'm deciding between manual 335is or 1m, 335is DCT or m3 dct right now ! You think 335is dct fbo+ meth will be quicker from a roll than auto or manual ? Thanks !

If you don't mind the size or the money go for the 1M no doubt...future collector item and you get to wear that M badge without hassle and you won't need to mod it much in the beginning, just get a cobb flash for it and meth and you're already set for a long while

[n54BoostOnCoke]

I'd get a manual. For big power, the automatic is a PITA

What about DCT 335is ? It's almost imposible to get the 1m and dct shifts very fast no ? From a roll a will it be quicker than both auto and manual ? I already have FBO+METH to put on it

[n54BoostOnCoke]

If you don't mind the size or the money go for the 1M no doubt...future collector item and you get to wear that M badge without hassle and you won't need to mod it much in the beginning, just get a cobb flash for it and meth and you're already set for a long while

LOL it's the looks that I'm worried about it looks like a cartoon lil buggy lol , and that horribel interior, but in heart I want it lol

[dzenno@PTF]

LOL it's the looks that I'm worried about it looks like a cartoon lil buggy lol , and that horribel interior, but in heart I want it lol

go with your heart lol

[n54BoostOnCoke]

LOL Thanks =]

[dzenno@PTF]

I see some people voted "other" in the poll but no one mentioned what other options they'd consider at these power levels (500+wtq)...care to chime in?

[n54BoostOnCoke]

I see some people voted "other" in the poll but no one mentioned what other options they'd consider at these power levels (500+wtq)...care to chime in?

LOL people are just $#@!ing with you I guess, btw how much is that HPF clutch ?

[dzenno@PTF]

LOL people are just $#@!ing with you I guess, btw how much is that HPF clutch ?

well its not funny lol its 1199+shipping...got a bit of a discount as an early promo which they'll most likely announce soon (maybe next week) to the public...i should be getting it some time next week...my ACT slipped a bit this morning at 4500rpm 3rd gear pull...car's a torque bomb

[n54BoostOnCoke]

well its not funny lol its 1199+shipping...got a bit of a discount as an early promo which they'll most likely announce soon (maybe next week) to the public...i should be getting it some time next week...my ACT slipped a bit this morning at 4500rpm 3rd gear pull...car's a torque bomb

Damn a 1k clutch =X, my last manual car was a nissan maxima, I was making about 280 whp LOL and I was power shifting ( not letting go of the gas pedal ) ALWAYS when racing, what about with our cars, you guys don't get to do things like that ? It will snap in 2 pieces ?

[dzenno@PTF]

Damn a 1k clutch =X, my last manual car was a nissan maxima, I was making about 280 whp LOL and I was power shifting ( not letting go of the gas pedal ) ALWAYS when racing, what about with our cars, you guys don't get to do things like that ? It will snap in 2 pieces ?

lol nothing will snap in 2 pieces you can do it but your clutch won't last long...you can get a WOTBox and do full throttle shifts (FTS) aka no lift shifts (NLS) aka flat foot shifts (FFS)

Ya, its not cheap...I got my ACT from a forum member for 250 and resurfaced my OEM flywheel for 100...that was good times

[n54BoostOnCoke]

How much is that wotbox ? Where to buy it ? Do you like it ? Thanks !

[dzenno@PTF]

http://www.npcompleteperformance.com/wotbox

talk to Jon from Wotbox here's their email address: sales at n2mb dot com

any questions or concerns he'll get you covered