Iroz Motorsport misleading people on Audi 2.5 TFSI records - APR vs. Iroz 2.5 TFSI tuning beef?

[Sticky]

Just for the record, the first amendment is about the government infringing upon the individual right to free speech. Any private individual or resource can make up whatever rules they want in that regard, and infringe on it all they want (an employer for example).

Yeah well I believe in practicing it to a certain degree here.

I hate it when people throw around “muh furst amenduhment right” in situations where it doesn’t apply at all.

Considering I'm the one making the decision pretty sure it applies to whatever degree I decide it does. Your statement only applies to yourself.

[Sticky]

@HankIroz sent me some new e-mails showing screenshots that he submitted runs mentioning the tires.

That would mean this whole thing is blown out of proportion over nothing as he did not lie about the tires. That is how it appears from the screen shot I saw.

I'm starting to think this is more an issue of Instagram and juggling the number of replies than anything else. Also the owner of the car not mentioning the full mod list which I did quote/screenshot.

So while maybe the owners held back on the number of mods Iroz did divulge the full list which we obviously now have.

So, maybe this can be put to bed as a social media misunderstanding more than anything deliberately misleading.

[Stockguru]

He does the same thing on all the other forums, like Audizine for example where he's now buddy buddy with Anthony the owner. He's a good engineer alright... social engineer that is!

All I did was respond to people's questions on IG about the car in question because he wouldn't and he blocks me for it. Now mind you nothing in my responses was untrue or disparaging in any shape way or form. All I did was provide the exact details of the car. And I got blocked. That speaks volumes of Hack Iroz's motivations. It's clear he wants the fanboys to think they can run the same numbers if they buy his stage 2 parts. Ironically his stage 2 parts played little to no role as his FMIC and DP have been proven over and over again to not add any quantifiable gains to a tuned 2.5 on ethanol.

@HankIroz sent me some new e-mails showing screenshots that he submitted runs mentioning the tires.

That would mean this whole thing is blown out of proportion over nothing as he did not lie about the tires. That is how it appears from the screen shot I saw.

I'm starting to think this is more an issue of Instagram and juggling the number of replies than anything else. Also the owner of the car not mentioning the full mod list which I did quote/screenshot.

So while maybe the owners held back on the number of mods Iroz did divulge the full list which we obviously now have.

So, maybe this can be put to bed as a social media misunderstanding more than anything deliberately misleading.

[Sticky]

He does the same thing on all the other forums, like Audizine for example where he's now buddy buddy with Anthony the owner. He's a good engineer alright... social engineer that is!

All I did was respond to people's questions on IG about the car in question because he wouldn't and he blocks me for it. Now mind you nothing in my responses was untrue or disparaging in any shape way or form. All I did was provide the exact details of the car. And I got blocked. That speaks volumes of Hack Iroz's motivations. It's clear he wants the fanboys to think they can run the same numbers if they buy his stage 2 parts. Ironically his stage 2 parts played little to no role as his FMIC and DP have been proven over and over again to not add any quantifiable gains to a tuned 2.5 on ethanol.

Everything has been cleared up to this point so what more is there to argue?

If he felt you were harassing him with multiple usernames nobody would blame him for blocking you. The truth did come out which is what you wanted, right? I commend you for making sure the full details were known.

So what more is there to do? This has been beaten into the ground.

[subaru335i]

@HankIroz sent me some new e-mails showing screenshots that he submitted runs mentioning the tires.

That would mean this whole thing is blown out of proportion over nothing as he did not lie about the tires. That is how it appears from the screen shot I saw.

I'm starting to think this is more an issue of Instagram and juggling the number of replies than anything else. Also the owner of the car not mentioning the full mod list which I did quote/screenshot.

So while maybe the owners held back on the number of mods Iroz did divulge the full list which we obviously now have.

So, maybe this can be put to bed as a social media misunderstanding more than anything deliberately misleading.

Exactly. A misunderstanding and Stockboohoo is a whiny little baby crying because his car is slower than the Iroz car.

/end thread

[Stockguru]

Everything has been cleared up to this point so what more is there to argue?

If he felt you were harassing him with multiple usernames nobody would blame him for blocking you. The truth did come out which is what you wanted, right? I commend you for making sure the full details were known.

So what more is there to do? This has been beaten into the ground.

What's been cleared up? What are you talking about? If you go to the three posts he made 9 days ago, there's still no information. People's questions still haven't been answered. No mention about the smaller brakes, weight reduction, full slicks, open exhaust, etc.

Even if he came out and made a post today with all the details, the deception has already been carried out. Plenty of people already saw it and acted on it by buying his Stage 2 parts thinking they'd be just as fast. Or... people simply won't see his response given that it's 9 days later now. That's assuming he even makes the post which he hasn't.

I think the bigger issues with this shop are producing parts such as the FMIC and downpipe which add no quantifiable power to a tuned RS3/TTRS AND almost killing customers by leaving their subframe bolts loose and doing other mickey mouse kind of work.

[Stevenh]

What's been cleared up? What are you talking about? If you go to the three posts he made 9 days ago, there's still no information. People's questions still haven't been answered. No mention about the smaller brakes, weight reduction, full slicks, open exhaust, etc.

Even if he came out and made a post today with all the details, the deception has already been carried out. Plenty of people already saw it and acted on it by buying his Stage 2 parts thinking they'd be just as fast. Or... people simply won't see his response given that it's 9 days later now. That's assuming he even makes the post which he hasn't.

I think the bigger issues with this shop are producing parts such as the FMIC and downpipe which add no quantifiable power to a tuned RS3/TTRS AND almost killing customers by leaving their subframe bolts loose and doing other mickey mouse kind of work.

No one cares.

[Stockguru]

No one cares.

Go walk the dog. Get out of the house. Get a life. Do something.

[Sticky]

What's been cleared up? What are you talking about? If you go to the three posts he made 9 days ago, there's still no information. People's questions still haven't been answered. No mention about the smaller brakes, weight reduction, full slicks, open exhaust, etc.

Even if he came out and made a post today with all the details, the deception has already been carried out. Plenty of people already saw it and acted on it by buying his Stage 2 parts thinking they'd be just as fast. Or... people simply won't see his response given that it's 9 days later now. That's assuming he even makes the post which he hasn't.

I think the bigger issues with this shop are producing parts such as the FMIC and downpipe which add no quantifiable power to a tuned RS3/TTRS AND almost killing customers by leaving their subframe bolts loose and doing other mickey mouse kind of work.

I don't know what to tell you. He disclosed all the mods for anyone who asks e-mails.

If he hasn't updated his post that's on him but maybe he doesn't feel like like it or whatever.

We have the full details. What more is necessary?

You're taking this pretty personally now accusing them of almost killing customers. Time to take a break from the keyboard maybe?

[F16HTON]

if iroz is correct and the "iroz_truth" troll and "stockguru" is marc ehrenberg, then you are taking the wrong side in this article as marc ehrenberg aka 10secs4 (who was selling stolen or copied B5 S4 tunes iirc), aka vol4.0tt, aka TTRSleeper, aka Jack Jones .... is a well known troll in the audi scene

he's been banned from audiworld and audizine so many times and always comes back with a new username..... sounds a lot like the "iroz_truth" troll

the irony is rich as he wants "iroz truth" but he was selling copied B5 S4 tunes and passing them of as his own developed tunes under name 10secs4 and not being TRUTHFUL

argumentum ad hominem