Iroz Motorsport misleading people on Audi 2.5 TFSI records - APR vs. Iroz 2.5 TFSI tuning beef?

[Stevenh]

Again, I can only laugh. You have NO CLUE whatsoever what you're talking about!

No, you're missing the main point. No one cares about your car or your times. Its the "stock turbo record". That car was on the stock turbo. Your car was on the stock turbo. Their car was faster. Get over it.

I've replied to every person I've seen with a question spanning multiple forums, FB groups, social media platforms, etc... If you can link me to others asking for videos, I'll be happy to answer them.

Seriously, for your own health, find something better to do with your time. Go out for a walk. Take up knitting. Get a dog... anything but this. No one cares, but you.

[Stockguru]

What it all boils down is Hank Iroz stonewalling people on social media. He makes three posts the night the car goes 10.2 and lists ZERO about the car being gutted, no seats, no exhaust, no mufflers, no cats, full bias ply non street legal slicks, etc. This would be fine except no less than 10 different people asked specifically in the comments about what tires were on the car, what weight reduction it had and he FLAT OUT IGNORED THEM yet he had enough time to bash the competition in the same comments, such as by agreeing with one poster who said he's seen certain hybrid cars running the same time (not true BTW -- they've gone 9.7-9.8 consistently).

What it all boils down is money. The good old fashioned buck. Hank would rather stonewall people than answer their questions because then people will think the 10.2 was simply achieved with Stage 2 parts and he will sell a lot more of them. If people find out that they have to gut out their interior, run no seats, no exhaust, no mufflers, no cats, put a jockey behind the wheel, non street legal full slicks requiring tubes and screws, etc. they're less likely to purchase the Stage 2 parts from Iroz, because they'll then know just how much it takes to run those numbers in the 1/4 mile...

Jesus I don't have time to read all the wall of text comments but they didn't get some lightweight jockey to race the car. Lexie the girl is dating or married to the dude and they own the car together and both race it.

Yeah there was REVERSIBLE weight reduction and sure they were downplaying what was really involved in getting the record but they aren't lying about mods.
Removing the seats are extremely easy and free for anyone to do. As far as I see they never claim "full weight" in the record.
Removing the mufflers aren't even that extreme to remove some significant weight and lots of people run lightweight batteries.

Lol this dude is freaking out about nothing and its not a good look.

Iroz is a good tuner and an impressive shop. APR is cool too but if I owned one of these cars I would take it to Iroz for sure. The dude eat sleeps and breathes the 07k engine.

Also, screenshotting Hank's list of mods and saying that is PROOF he is lying or whatever is so childish. It is extremely common for people to only list power mods when someone asks. Because it gets tedious listing every little thing done to the car.
He said all of the power mods and doesn't make it any less impressive that this record was done on stock turbos. Who cares if they have drag slicks and removed seats and mufflers?

I personally assume serious racers do everything in their power to run the fastest time and it is extremely common to chase stock turbo records. No one except little whiny babies complain that people remove weight or change tires lol.

Losers.

[gaspam]

Again, I can only laugh. You have NO CLUE whatsoever what you're talking about!

Xaria Racing is MY IG. You're chewing out of both sides of your mouth! On one hand you're saying why did I not disclose that I was running 16's and A3 brakes yet on the other hand you're SHOWING A SCREENSHOT of me messaging JUST THAT ON INSTAGRAM... Me *DISCLOSING* the brakes and 16" wheels!

you are too stupid to get it.... you did NOT disclose it when submitting to the list (what you accused iroz of), then when you got caught you posted details... get it?

I've replied to every person I've seen with a question spanning multiple forums, FB groups, social media platforms, etc... If you can link me to others asking for videos, I'll be happy to answer them. There is NO VIDEO of my 10.3 pass. However, REST ASSURED that when I break the record and do it with a FULL INTERIOR and FULL FACTORY EXHAUST there will be video of it. There will also be video when and if I run 9's with the stock turbo, too. Don't you worry about that.

of course you dont have a video.. when one goes out to set a record, they usually film it unless they are hiding something, which is funny because that is your exact accusation against IROZ, hiding/transparency.

I am the founder and owner of the 1/4 mile spreadsheet. Still am. Like I said, Brian was given WRITE access to it. In the two months that we both maintained it, he added about 5 timeslips and I added 90+. On Sunday he STOLE the contents of the spreadsheet and pasted them INTO HIS OWN SPREADSHEET. That is the one he now has linked on Audizine. I still maintain the REAL spreadsheet with the growing content and it will continue to grow while Brian's NEW ONE will suffer.

wait you are mad about someone stealing your work and passing it off as their own MARC???? that is rich, considering that is exactly what first got you bad name in the audiworld when you were taking other tuners' tunes and tweaking them and passing them off as your own and selling them....

Before you respond again can you please do me one favor and at least TRY to get your facts straight? I mean you just have no idea how foolish you're making yourself look right now by being so utterly inept.

no marc aka 10secs4 aka voltt aka soccerking93 aka mini turbo s aka TTrsleeper, to anyone that's been around the audi scene, you are the one that always looks foolish

[Stockguru]

You still just don't get it... SHAKING MY HEAD. There is no submitting anything to anyone... I OWN THE LIST. So I just edit the list myself and that's what I did for my pass... Putting in all the appropriate data like I do for anyone else in the spreadsheet. Everything was put in just like anyone else's entry. I put in the TIRE field my exact Hoosier DR2 drag radials. Hank, on the other hand, lied and tried submitting a timeslip to be added to the list with incorrect information, such as street tires instead of slicks. He then got caught and you saw the interaction because I gave you the screen shot of it.

Please show me ONE shred of evidence that of what you're accusing me of. I mean ACTUAL EVIDENCE, not just some jealous loser running their mouth like we have plenty of today. You won't find it.

In case you can't tell, I get a lot of $#@! and am banned from forums because of how outspoken I am. I don't hold back. I tell it like it is. And that's why you see the things that you see.

you are too stupid to get it.... you did NOT disclose it when submitting to the list (what you accused iroz of), then when you got caught you posted details... get it?


of course you dont have a video.. when one goes out to set a record, they usually film it unless they are hiding something, which is funny because that is your exact accusation against IROZ, hiding/transparency.

wait you are mad about someone stealing your work and passing it off as their own MARC???? that is rich, considering that is exactly what first got you bad name in the audiworld when you were taking other tuners' tunes and tweaking them and passing them off as your own and selling them....

no marc aka 10secs4 aka voltt aka soccerking93 aka mini turbo s aka TTrsleeper, to anyone that's been around the audi scene, you are the one that always looks foolish

[Stockguru]

You still just don't get it... SHAKING MY HEAD. There is no submitting anything to anyone... I OWN THE LIST. So I just edit the list myself and that's what I did for my pass... Putting in all the appropriate data like I do for anyone else in the spreadsheet. Everything was put in just like anyone else's entry. I put in the TIRE field my exact Hoosier DR2 drag radials. Hank, on the other hand, lied and tried submitting a timeslip to be added to the list with incorrect information, such as street tires instead of slicks. He then got caught and you saw the interaction because I gave you the screen shot of it.

Again, you're making yourself look so so stupid right now. This is absolutely NOTHING to do with why I was banned from Audizine. I've been getting banned from Audizine for years and years.

I am the founder and owner of the spreadsheet, do you not get that? I added my car to the list just like anyone else's. It's on there now with 100% accurate information. There's no submitting anything to anyone because the spreadsheet is mine.

PLEASE PLEASE do more research for your next reply... You just have no idea how stupid you're sounding right now. If you can't work on your trolling it's not even going to be worth it to respond to you anymore. Please don't let that happen.

you are too stupid to get it.... you did NOT disclose it when submitting you timeslip to the list (what you accused iroz of), then when you got caught you posted details... get it?

that's why you got banned

[Stockguru]

Relax... It's entertainment. I enjoy it.

But you're one to talk? You keep bringing this up over and over again like a broken record yet you yourself are falling victim to the same thing you're accusing me of.

Seriously, for your own health, find something better to do with your time. Go out for a walk or a hike. Find a new hobby. Get a cat. Anything except this. Nobody cares, except you and me.

No, you're missing the main point. No one cares about your car or your times. Its the "stock turbo record". That car was on the stock turbo. Your car was on the stock turbo. Their car was faster. Get over it.



Seriously, for your own health, find something better to do with your time. Go out for a walk. Take up knitting. Get a dog... anything but this. No one cares, but you.

[gaspam]

You still just don't get it... SHAKING MY HEAD. There is no submitting anything to anyone... I OWN THE LIST.

actually you DO NOT OWN the list, that is why you cannot access it on audizine and why you are creating fake profiles trying to get access to the one on audizine.... you can easily prove you own the list on audizine but going out there and adding a new entry... for example, go add "GOD" to the list and put the times as 2 seconds.... then you will be proven right that you own the list.... we will wait


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[Stockguru]

Yet again, you're so incredibly clueless... I'll refer you to my last response:

You are so incredibly clueless LOL. I was the one who started the spreadsheet. I am still the owner of it. I gave Brian EDIT access to it. He then copied it and STOLE my data, except it now looks like crap because he has no idea what he's doing. In the past 2 months that we both had write access to the spreadsheet, he added about 5 timeslips and I added over 90. So like I said on the other forum, his new spreadsheet which is just mine copied (except he didn't know how to do it properly) will suffer in the coming days, weeks, months, years, etc. since mine will continually get new and unique content and his will be the same old $#@!. Unless, of course, he steals mine again but this time I'm keeping mine private. It's everyone else who stands to lose, not me. It got to where it was because of my hard work and dedication.


You keep thinking you know it all but I can only chuckle because you're so very clueless. Like with the brakes and drag radials... Did you not know that was MY Instagram and my Instagram message that you were quoting.


The quote you're referring to is something I TOLD Brian to do... Because people were thinking his NEW and SH!TTY list which he STOLE from me was mine. So to let people know I had nothing to do with his new, pirated list, I told him to at least post on Audizine that I no longer have anything to do with that crap which he just stole and copied/pasted into a different spreadsheet. In that post he's referring to the NEW list which as of Sunday is being maintained by him. This is the one that's total crap with much less timeslips, columns missing, etc. I still have the original one which I STARTED and still maintain. Like I said, I added 90+ of the timeslips myself (lots of work finding all the data out there) and Brian added a handful of them. So like I said, his list will suffer over time and that will only hurt the community.

actually you DO NOT OWN the list, that is why you cannot access it on audizine and why you are creating fake profiles trying to get access to the one on audizine.... you can easily prove you own the list on audizine but going out there and adding a new entry... for example, go add "GOD" to the list and put the times as 2 seconds.... then you will be proven right that you own the list.... we will wait


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[Stockguru]

Again, because you're so wrong on everything... There was ONE spreadsheet which I started and currently own. Two months ago I gave BRIAN SAXON edit access to it. This is the one which had been LINKED TO in the first post of that Audizine thread up until this PAST SUNDAY when he CHANGED THE LINK to reflect a NEW SPREADSHEET which he simply copied/pasted the contents of my original spreadsheet to (check out the last edit date and time for that post). So now there are two spreadsheets... The one currently linked in his Audizine post (as of this past Sunday when he changed the link) which is the one with the PLAGIARIZED data which is also missing columns, timeslips, etc. and the ORIGINAL one which I started and continue to maintain. Like I said, over time his will turn to total crap because I was the one doing 95% of it.

The response Brian made which you keep posting is something I TOLD HIM TO DO VIA TEXT MESSAGE. I told him to tell people that I have nothing to do with the new and crappy spreadsheet which he stole from me, because I didn't want people thinking I was associated with such a turd spreadsheet. I continue to maintain mine and you can find that link on the second to last page of the Audizine thread. That is the one which up until Sunday had been linked to in the first post. That spreadsheet is still alive and kickin'... Brian has been thrown off it and I still maintain it. It's just not being linked in the first post anymore since it's Brian's thread and he's pawning off his own "new" spreadsheet as his own even though it's 95+% my own hard earned work. But like I said over time people will see huge differences between the two as his will be lacking and not contain all the new timeslips and information like mine will have.

[Stockguru]

I think what you may not be understanding is the 1/4 mile list itself is not hosted on Audizine. It's hosted on a Google spreadsheet. The Audizine thread is simply LINKING to that external site. I think that's where you keep getting this wrong. The thread itself is just for people to post their times and then we use that information to make an entry to the spreadsheet located on Google's site. Perhaps this is where you're getting confused. However with that said, Audizine is not the primary source of content for the spreadsheet. Most of it is scoped out on social media, user's groups, etc. It's quite challenging find new timeslips to add. It's almost like a game of scavenger hunt... And I enjoy it.

[gaspam]

Again, because you're so wrong on everything... There was ONE spreadsheet which I started and currently own. Two months ago I gave BRIAN SAXON edit access to it. This is the one which had been LINKED TO in the first post of that Audizine thread up until this PAST SUNDAY when he CHANGED THE LINK to reflect a NEW SPREADSHEET which he simply copied/pasted the contents of my original spreadsheet to (check out the last edit date and time for that post). So now there are two spreadsheets... The one currently linked in his Audizine post (as of this past Sunday when he changed the link) which is the one with the PLAGIARIZED data which is also missing columns, timeslips, etc. and the ORIGINAL one which I started and continue to maintain. Like I said, over time his will turn to total crap because I was the one doing 95% of it.

The response Brian made which you keep posting is something I TOLD HIM TO DO VIA TEXT MESSAGE. I told him to tell people that I have nothing to do with the new and crappy spreadsheet which he stole from me, because I didn't want people thinking I was associated with such a turd spreadsheet. I continue to maintain mine and you can find that link on the second to last page of the Audizine thread. That is the one which up until Sunday had been linked to in the first post. That spreadsheet is still alive and kickin'... Brian has been thrown off it and I still maintain it. It's just not being linked in the first post anymore since it's Brian's thread and he's pawning off his own "new" spreadsheet as his own even though it's 95+% my own hard earned work. But like I said over time people will see huge differences between the two as his will be lacking and not contain all the new timeslips and information like mine will have.

no one cares about your spreadsheet Marc because you are a known liar...., yes we all understand the audizine one is a google spreadsheet, that is LINKED to the audizine official 1/4 mile RS3/TTRS thread.

and yes, you need to be a member of audzine to add to that official audizine list (again no one cares about yours as you cant be trusted).... and you keep trying to add to the audizine one, but you keep getting banned with all your fake new user accounts. (perfect example of your untrustworthiness)

you are just butthurt because you are not as smart as you think and you keep getting caught and you cant get to the audizine list to manipulate it.... like below today where you though you were sneaky

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[Chris F]

Can the admin please IP ban Stockguru and his alt accounts? Everywhere he appears he does nothing but kill the forum signal/noise ratio in the most obnoxious way possible.

[Sticky]

Can the admin please IP ban Stockguru and his alt accounts? Everywhere he appears he does nothing but kill the forum signal/noise ratio in the most obnoxious way possible.

No. I'm not going to ban someone just because you don't like what they post.

There is clearly beef here but I don't see anything he is posting as ban worthy and he did raise some valid arguments although I think there are definitely question marks as to his motivation.

Ultimately, the most important thing here is getting at the truth.

[Sticky]

God this is embarrassing. It reminds me of the guys posting "N54 1/2 mile trap record" for 1-floor mat out, AT, on pump gas... Seriously why does Hank have to disclose what weight reduction is done? Once it's not full weight, its not full weight. I see NO ONE handicapping our times to someone like Terry's where his car literally weighs 800-1000 lbs less than ours, yet we are put on an even playing field for all things N54, slip or trap wise. Yet you guys are bickering about a $#@!ing battery, and that they let a girl drive the car. Anything to stir up drama I guess...

I think it's important to disclose all mods when claiming a record.

[Sticky]

Stock turbo time is a stock turbo time. As long as the turbo is STOCK, who cares how they get to their time.

Seriously? Power to weight is huge.

That is why people ask if a car is full weight or not.

[Sticky]

I am still the owner of it. I gave Brian EDIT access to it. He then copied it and STOLE my data, except it now looks like crap because he has no idea what he's doing. In the past 2 months that we both had write access to the spreadsheet, he added about 5 timeslips and I added over 90. So like I said on the other forum, his new spreadsheet which is just mine copied (except he didn't know how to do it properly) will suffer in the coming days, weeks, months, years, etc. since mine will continually get new and unique content and his will be the same old $#@!. Unless, of course, he steals mine again but this time I'm keeping mine private. It's everyone else who stands to lose, not me. It got to where it was because of my hard work and dedication.

Dick move that he stole your work but technically it's yours and depending on where it was hosted under copyright protection. You could go after him if it is a big deal to you as it would be to me if someone stole my work (which happens more often than you think).

I'm building a performance database anyway and I will happily include the data and keep it under copyright protection.

[Sticky]

Hank outright LIED when he tried getting the 10.2 added to the spreadsheet by wanting to pass it off as being done on STREET TIRES when it was actually on NON STREET LEGAL BIAS PLY SLICKS. Huge difference.

This to me is a big and important point. On Instagram the wheels/tires were not disclosed until after this blew up with questions about the run.

It could also be he honestly didn't know but come on he knows what it takes to hit a 60 foot like that.

Anyway, Hank is pissed, other people are pissed, and so forth but ultimately we have the truth and that is what matters to me.

This can all be handled better from all sides going forward. There isn't any need for the calls to ban (seriously?), insults, and arguing.

[Sticky]

In case you can't tell, I get a lot of $#@! and am banned from forums because of how outspoken I am. I don't hold back. I tell it like it is. And that's why you see the things that you see.

Wish I could relate.

[Tony@VargasTurboTech]

I think it's important to disclose all mods when claiming a record.

Glazed over my post and the point of it, but whatever. Also, this person literally posted in this thread he makes fake accounts JUST so he can troll people, which he is clearly doing here, and you say you will not ban him. Basically, you are encouraging him to make fake accounts, troll members, and its A-OK. I forgot how much this place runs on drama

Not really. I actually enjoy it. If I didn't want to "get found out," I would simply do the following:

1) Not talk/type in the same style that I always do.

2) Connect through a proxy server to mask my IP address.

But I just don't care.

[Stevenh]

Can the admin please IP ban Stockguru and his alt accounts? Everywhere he appears he does nothing but kill the forum signal/noise ratio in the most obnoxious way possible.

Agreed. I've seen this guy doing the same BS for over a decade. He really has a knack for mucking up constructive dialog and doesn't hide from the fact that is what his intentions are. Not my forum, though...

[Stockguru]

You're only half right... While it's true that I register new accounts it's not because I want to "troll" people, but rather because my "real" ones get banned for telling it like it is and being so outspoken. The style for which I make my points tends to piss people off and that takes away from the arguments I try to make. In all fairness I've been a member of this forum for over 2.5 years now and haven't been banned (yet).

Glazed over my post and the point of it, but whatever. Also, this person literally posted in this thread he makes fake accounts JUST so he can troll people, which he is clearly doing here, and you say you will not ban him. Basically, you are encouraging him to make fake accounts, troll members, and its A-OK. I forgot how much this place runs on drama

[Stockguru]

Dick move that he stole your work but technically it's yours and depending on where it was hosted under copyright protection. You could go after him if it is a big deal to you as it would be to me if someone stole my work (which happens more often than you think).

I'm building a performance database anyway and I will happily include the data and keep it under copyright protection.

It's everyone else who's using his inferior and plagiarized list that stands to lose. But it's okay, I'll post the "real list" up on other forums such as this one along with FB groups, etc. to get the word out there. I may also start a website for it and other RS3/TTRS resources I'm working on:

GEN 2 RS3/TTRS 1/4 MILE DRAG LADDER
FL RS3/TTRS PART WEIGHTS DATABASE
Feel free to link to either spreadsheet on your site.

[subaru335i]

What on god's green earth are you talking about? You CLEARLY didn't read the replies because if you did you'd realize the following:

Josh/Lexie/Iroz went 10.26@131 with:

A $1600 FMIC
A $1000 downpipe
A $1300 air intake
A gutted interior with no seats
NO exhaust, NO cats, NO mufflers. Fumes o'plenty.
FULL bias-ply slicks (which require tubes, screws, etc) which aren't street legal

I went 10.33@130 with:

Stock FMIC
Stock downpipe, stock cats, stock mufflers, bone stock exhaust system
Stock air intake except for a K&N drop in
A FULL interior with all seats
DOT legal drag radials

It's basically a gutted tin can race car running 10.26 vs a full interior street car going 10.33. That's just sick.

Sounds like you are super butthurt that your car is slow. Sucks to suck.

[Sticky]

JUST so he can troll people, which he is clearly doing here, and you say you will not ban him. Basically, you are encouraging him to make fake accounts, troll members, and its A-OK. I forgot how much this place runs on drama

I don't support duplicate accounts, he isn't trolling with duplicate accounts here, and that would not be A-OK with me.

Banning people based on what they do on other sites sets a dangerous precedent and I will not be part of it.

He hasn't violated the rules HERE which is what I concern myself with.

Do you support de-platforming people and a handful of forum owners controlling who can say what? Because that is dangerously close to what you are advocating for. I'm not for drama. I'm for the first amendment.

[BLKROKT]

Just for the record, the first amendment is about the government infringing upon the individual right to free speech. Any private individual or resource can make up whatever rules they want in that regard, and infringe on it all they want (an employer for example).

I hate it when people throw around “muh furst amenduhment right” in situations where it doesn’t apply at all.