Article: JB4 tuned BMW F80 M3 gets smoked on the strip by an APR Stage III+ tuned MKVII Golf R from USP Motorsports

[Sticky]

2.0 liter turbo I4 vs. 3.0 liter twin turbo I6 and the four-cylinder comes out on top? Yep. To be fair, the MKVII Golf R has a turbo upgrade courtesy of APR and their Stage III+ kit while the BMW S55 3.0 liter I6 is on the factory turbos but the Golf also has an engine 2/3 the size.

The F80 M3 is tuned with a BMW JB4 piggyback but what supporting mods it has or what map it is running is unknown.

This is the Golf R mod list:

APR Stage 3+ Kit APR ECU + TCU Tune
APR Intake
APR Intercooler
Milltek Valved Catback System
USP Cool Flow Filter Housing
USP Cool Flow DSG Filter Housing
USP High Flow Turbo Inlet Hose
Spulen Catch Can
KW V3 Coilovers
Vossen VFS1
P3 VIDI Gauge

The all wheel drive dual clutch Golf R getting the better elapsed time here is no surprise. However, it also traps higher than the M3 as well. Certainly impressive performance by the Golf.

[KEMA]

Damn what a pocket rocket. And all this on a stock clutch?

Ken

[Sticky]

Damn what a pocket rocket. And all this on a stock clutch?

Ken

From what they said, stock DSG. Impressive.

[Enfiftyfore]

I really don't think that engine displacement has any place in power arguments anymore.

[Bowser330]

Both cars could have had better 60fts, 1.96 for M3 and 1.81 for GolfR.

Drag radials will guarantee 10's for the GolfR.

[maxnix]

I really don't think that engine displacement has any place in power arguments anymore.

Shirley, you jest!

[spool twice]

something interesting about this track (Bradenton Motorsports)...

I've always trapped higher in the right lane (Golf R), but always get my best E.T.'s on the left lane (M3). Each and every time. The left lane favors better 60ft times (hence slightly lower E.T.'s), and I believe the D/A on the day of the video (looks to be FIXXFEST) is 1,600-1,800ft.

[Sticky]

I really don't think that engine displacement has any place in power arguments anymore.

Even though turbos are everywhere displacement still matters.

[rikaro29]

[eric84405]

From what I could tell, it looks like the M3 may have been sleeping a little at the light. The MPH between the two are pretty close.

[Bowser330]

Well sure the peak power may be the same but what about the area under the torque curve?

[The Convert]

The Golf R is still a piece of $#@! VAG product...and I own an Audi. So, that's saying something.

[Sticky]

The Golf R is still a piece of $#@! VAG product...and I own an Audi. So, that's saying something.

Why is it so bad exactly?

[Foagy]

I'm pretty happy with my S3 so far, but I have seen some VII R's with turbo issues through the forums. I just can't wait for the IROZ motorsport kit to come out. They do crazy things with the 5-cylinder, and so far development for MQB platform looks promising.

[The Convert]

Why is it so bad exactly?

Because Audi/Volkswagen can't engineer anything correctly. :p

[Sticky]

I'm pretty happy with my S3 so far, but I have seen some VII R's with turbo issues through the forums. I just can't wait for the IROZ motorsport kit to come out. They do crazy things with the 5-cylinder, and so far development for MQB platform looks promising.

Iroz does sick stuff on the 2.5 TFSI but I don't know if that necessarily means they will have the same results with the four-cylinder.

However, if it's anything even close it will be epic.

[berns]

Iroz does sick stuff on the 2.5 TFSI but I don't know if that necessarily means they will have the same results with the four-cylinder.
However, if it's anything even close it will be epic.

Thought I showed you their progress?! They've built the 2.0 and are about to release their turbo kit. The transmission is the next limiting factor.
They just ran a 10.8 @ 129 on a stock-block flat torque curve tune. They're expecting low 10s and 135-ish traps with their IMS650 kit that'll be released soon. That'll be rods & pistons though. Vid below is with v-box, claming 10.6...

588whp
and the 10.9 run

[Sticky]

Thought I showed you their progress?! They've built the 2.0 and are about to release their turbo kit. The transmission is the next limiting factor.

Maybe I forgot. Not bad!

10.9 though is pretty much what APR and TTE are doing with fairly mild upgrades.


Looks like they will have more power though as 136 is moving.