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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MSIZZLE Click here to enlarge
    Well i guess your argument would make sense if cars NEVER sold below msrp either but they do, is that a dealership burning money? Or is under msrp just the "market value" therefore thats what the cars sell for.
    Under MSRP is still above invoice so the dealer is making money regardless. The cars have a set manufacturer value. Homes do not work the same way. My house does not have an MSRP. It fluctuates based on what similar homes in the same area sell for as well as interest rates.

    Banks don't hand out 0% mortgages last I checked?

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MSIZZLE Click here to enlarge
    As far as your Realestate argument that also makes no sense, the fact of the house appreciating or depreciating is irrelevant to my point, when you buy a house whether the value has gone up or down you try and sell if for as MUCH as you can at that moment NOT what ever its actually worth.
    The real estate argument regarding how it is not the same thing makes complete sense. Your point is general in that an item is worth whatever someone will pay for it. Sure, that makes sense.

    However, I'm not going to pay over the manufacturer price for an Iphone. I'm not going to do it for a TV. I'm not going to do it for a car either.

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    You also ignored my point about flippers, should they be able to buy a gt3 rs or any other hot car and sell it for a 100k more??
    Sure, if they can get the money. You're saying if they can the dealer should be able to too. I'm saying anyone paying over MSRP for an M4 GTS is absolutely an idiot. It's not even worth MSRP. That holds no matter what artificial bubble dealers try to create for it.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Wow. This just keeps getting worse and worse.
    During the Top Gear's Speek Week special, Chris Harris said the M4 GTS was the biggest disappointment of the test. He ranked it behind the M2 also, said new Alfa was loads better than GTS.


    http://www.topgear.com/videos

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    Sad, but true

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    Pretty funny

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    M4 GTS falls short in another test. This time Road & Track Performance Car of the Year.

    http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cult...r-of-the-year/

    Soundly out lapped again by the new Grand Sport.


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    lol so the m4 gts barely outlapped the c63s on road and track. pretty sad. pretty safe bet that it will be dominated by the c63r/bs whatever they decide to call it

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    http://www.6post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1326295

    Take a look at this thread, this is exactly what I'm talking about, you guys wanna say the dealer is a crook but here is a customer who invested NOTHING selling his spot in line for $5000. And guess what, he will probably get it because the car is currently worth more than MSRP

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MSIZZLE Click here to enlarge
    http://www.6post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1326295

    Take a look at this thread, this is exactly what I'm talking about, you guys wanna say the dealer is a crook but here is a customer who invested NOTHING selling his spot in line for $5000. And guess what, he will probably get it because the car is currently worth more than MSRP
    Who is that stupid?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BlackJetE90OC Click here to enlarge
    M4 GTS falls short in another test. This time Road & Track Performance Car of the Year.

    http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cult...r-of-the-year/

    Soundly out lapped again by the new Grand Sport.


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    Do you have this full spread? I missed writing an article on it.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Do you have this full spread? I missed writing an article on it.
    Just got it from that link.

    Check out out the new Evo performance car of the year test on their YouTube channel. M4 GTS racked up another last place. Even finished behind the Focus RS. This car is getting killed by the media.

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    New Century BMW Alhambra CA.

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    I pity the fool who buys one of these. Even if these things do appreciate in the future (which they probably won't) even limited edition Ferrari and Porsche cars hardly ever end up doubling in value...much less a barely modified version of a relatively pedestrian car.
    I can't wait to see what these end up going for 10 years from now on the used market vs one of these other cars that actually deserve to be in the $250k segment.

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