Steed Speed to Start making N54 Twin Scroll CNC Manifolds.

[The Convert]

Willing to show any pics of the machine work and fit on some of the internal passages? Can be just what you see when it's already welded up.

[Tony@VargasTurboTech]

Pinch? The passages are all exactly the same cross section from head flange to the turbo flange. CES Motorsport has this prototype in hand and is moving ahead with fabricating the rest of the kit now. I've done my bit and it is now in their hands. For all the "experts" in here. I'd like to ask what you do for a living? Personally, I design and build CNC machined turbo manifolds, just that, have done for 15 years. There are never any compromises in my products. I make every angle, every meeting point of passages, every curve the best that I can make it given the space available and the size of turbo we are trying to cram in there. I worked very hard on this design and spared no expense of my time or money to make absolutely sure I wrung the most power possible from your cars. I see a reference and dyno chart in here to my new twin scroll manifold. That is a good design and is as good as I could make it with the turbo placement for the E36. The 335 allows me a much nicer turbo location and the manifold I have built for the 335 is far superior to the E36, particularly on the back 3 cylinders. Yes, its taken a while to do but I am only doing this once and I'm doing it right. I appologise for the long wait but i can assure you that it will be worth it.

Leen, thanks for the post, internet "experts" are all too common these days just shake them off, 99% of the people nitpicking will never be in the market for this, they all run stock turbos, with a $200 tune, hate their jobs so they sit on the forums all day, and whine. Manifold looks great, the CES results posted in this thread from the other platform also look great. Looking forward to seeing CES's results.

[hokejka]

Pinch? The passages are all exactly the same cross section from head flange to the turbo flange. CES Motorsport has this prototype in hand and is moving ahead with fabricating the rest of the kit now. I've done my bit and it is now in their hands. For all the "experts" in here. I'd like to ask what you do for a living? Personally, I design and build CNC machined turbo manifolds, just that, have done for 15 years. There are never any compromises in my products. I make every angle, every meeting point of passages, every curve the best that I can make it given the space available and the size of turbo we are trying to cram in there. I worked very hard on this design and spared no expense of my time or money to make absolutely sure I wrung the most power possible from your cars. I see a reference and dyno chart in here to my new twin scroll manifold. That is a good design and is as good as I could make it with the turbo placement for the E36. The 335 allows me a much nicer turbo location and the manifold I have built for the 335 is far superior to the E36, particularly on the back 3 cylinders. Yes, its taken a while to do but I am only doing this once and I'm doing it right. I appologise for the long wait but i can assure you that it will be worth it.

While there might be people that just attemp to troll threads/products/or developers for the sake of starting a fire. you have to understand there is solid amount of us that are in it because of the passion. distinguishing between the two is near impossible and as a business owner its wise to give the other the benefit of the doubt. Thats the reason Tony gets a bad rap from so many people, not because the products arent good but becuase he'll attempt to knock people before getting the right picture.

As far as your manifold goes, maybe a WTF captioned picture wasnt the best way to approach the thread but its just a genuine concern for a well made product. The whole point of these back and forths are to eliminate bad people and bad products as im sure you know there are in every business. with the specific manifold the placement of everything is limited but instead of attempting to defend your personally rep it would be nice the have the product addressed. accordig to you we should just buy it because youve made good things in the past. thats not how this works. its a better starting point with a better access to the market but nownits time to prove to the market it truly is a good products. I like most people commenting and subbed want a new manifold becuase we think there can be better alternatives cost/development wise than whats out there. just be patient and address the question.

[hokejka]

Willing to show any pics of the machine work and fit on some of the internal passages? Can be just what you see when it's already welded up.

yes more pics would be nice

[Tony@VargasTurboTech]

No offense man, but you want to be taken as not a troll, but a "serious" person, and your contribution to the thread, was a photo at obviously a weird angle, with WTF scribbled across it in crayon. Um you get exactly the response you asked for.

[hokejka]

Fair enough

[Fishayyy]

Regardless, it seems that the ball is now in CES's court. So I suppose we just wait for results from them.

[steedspeed]

9180 fits! Very nicely too. Second prototype is a winner. Just had to lower the turbo and move it out and back a bit. I'll post pics next week.

[rooringhusky]

Awesome news, can't wait for pics

[hokejka]

any updates?

[Tony@VargasTurboTech]

any updates?

Never understood the "any updates" post. Yes the manufacture has a ton of updates, they just decided not to post them... Updates are posted as progress is made 99.9% of the time.

[Fishayyy]

Never understood the "any updates" post. Yes the manufacture has a ton of updates, they just decided not to post them... Updates are posted as progress is made 99.9% of the time.

Its kinda like a reminder I suppose. So they don't forget to post.

[Tony@VargasTurboTech]

Its kinda like a reminder I suppose. So they don't forget to post.

If you are building a product specifically for a platform, and looking to monetize it, dont really think its possible to forget to post an important update. Just saying, asking for updates usually nets you the same response, were working on it. Don't know a single company that wouldn't post a significant update as soon as they have it.

[subaru335i]

If you are building a product specifically for a platform, and looking to monetize it, dont really think its possible to forget to post an important update. Just saying, asking for updates usually nets you the same response, were working on it. Don't know a single company that wouldn't post a significant update as soon as they have it.

Well since Leen isn't really the one marketing this manifold in a kit to the end user I could see how he could forget to update this thread and a reminder might get more info. Also, just because they aren't ready for full product launch doesn't mean there won't be any updates. Oh and what if other people know things or have heard something about the progress? You never know which is why people ask.
I haven't even seen CES post about their kit (at least on here) and they are the ones who are making the rest of the kit and will be selling it so I wouldn't take it for granted that every company selling aftermarket car parts will update threads on all of the different forums when there is something to update.
Not every vendor spends all their time on forums.

[Flinchy]

If you are building a product specifically for a platform, and looking to monetize it, dont really think its possible to forget to post an important update. Just saying, asking for updates usually nets you the same response, were working on it. Don't know a single company that wouldn't post a significant update as soon as they have it.

nah there's been plenty of updates

he's been posting them on the FB groups pretty regularly.. just not here.

[Tony@VargasTurboTech]

nah there's been plenty of updates

he's been posting them on the FB groups pretty regularly.. just not here.

Don't blame him. Every time he does the "experts" pick it apart

[Tony@VargasTurboTech]

Well since Leen isn't really the one marketing this manifold in a kit to the end user I could see how he could forget to update this thread and a reminder might get more info. Also, just because they aren't ready for full product launch doesn't mean there won't be any updates. Oh and what if other people know things or have heard something about the progress? You never know which is why people ask.
I haven't even seen CES post about their kit (at least on here) and they are the ones who are making the rest of the kit and will be selling it so I wouldn't take it for granted that every company selling aftermarket car parts will update threads on all of the different forums when there is something to update.
Not every vendor spends all their time on forums.

Well since it seems he is updating other places he has not forgotten, he doesn't give two $#@!s to post them here, and have it picked apart like last time. So posting "any updates" is not going to net anything, as their are updates elsewhere from what Flinchy just said.

[subaru335i]

nah there's been plenty of updates

he's been posting them on the FB groups pretty regularly.. just not here.

Good to know. I will follow him on FB

[Fishayyy]

Good to know. I will follow him on FB

That's what I started doing awhile ago, but even on Facebook there's a lot of people that call his kit a Motiv rip-off, dude can't catch a break lol

[subaru335i]

That's what I started doing awhile ago, but even on Facebook there's a lot of people that call his kit a Motiv rip-off, dude can't catch a break lol

Probably why he is letting CES run with it.

[islandroad83]

I don't have the manifold in my hands as of yet. Leen did send me some pictures of the manifold and of it on the car with the turbo installed but I don't think he wants it shared as of yet so no pictures. Apparently there needs to be some slight changes ( i'm not sure what they are) and then there will be a batch of 50 made.

I don't have a time frame, i just get my info when Leens gives me an updates. The moment I have the manifold in my hands pictures will be posted.

[Fishayyy]

I don't have the manifold in my hands as of yet. Leen did send me some pictures of the manifold and of it on the car with the turbo installed but I don't think he wants it shared as of yet so no pictures. Apparently there needs to be some slight changes ( i'm not sure what they are) and then there will be a batch of 50 made.

I don't have a time frame, i just get my info when Leens gives me an updates. The moment I have the manifold in my hands pictures will be posted.

He did post this on Facebook, even though it wasn't much.

"EFR in car"

[islandroad83]

Ya i have a bunch of those pics from that photoshoot - I saw what he posted online. He said not to post them up so I will just let him display what he wants. I will prob check back with him in a few months to see how the progress is going.

[neuroclast]

Bottom mount?

[Simmi15]

He did post this on Facebook, even though it wasn't much.

"EFR in car"

This looks like a manifold that will be able to fit xi's... maybe Leen can confirm he is trying to accomplish this? Would be great news for even more people once he releases it.