Dodge swings for the fences and officially rates the SRT Hellcat at 707 horsepower for the most powerful muscle car ever built

[mjmarovi]

I think you're not giving it enough credit. I'd expect it to be faster than the GT500.

Why? It weighs roughly 3,800 pounds. You think 45bhp makes up for 700 pounds?

LMAO GT500 1/4 times....~11.6 bone stock.700 more pounds than the GT500 and only 45 more flywheel hp. I can't see the automatic in the hellcat making up the deficit in weight difference alone. GT500 will mop these up at the strip and the highway. This car will be purchased by older guys who want a comfortable ride and to boast about all the HP they have under the hood.

[Sticky]

You think 45bhp makes up for 700 pounds?

I think you're missing a couple things including that it has a new 8-speed that is quick and also that the difference is probably not what you think it is at the crank.

Additionally, is Dodge coming out with this thing and specifically calling it the most powerful muscle car ever to be slower than the established competition?

This car will be purchased by older guys who want a comfortable ride and to boast about all the HP they have under the hood.

I don't know why you're hating on this car.

[mjmarovi]

I think you're missing a couple things including that it has a new 8-speed that is quick and also that the difference is probably not what you think it is at the crank.

Additionally, is Dodge coming out with this thing and specifically calling it the most powerful muscle car ever to be slower than the established competition?



I don't know why you're hating on this car.

I'm not hating on it. Just saying it's slow. They already bragged about having the most powerful muscle car in it's class comparing the SRT8 to the GT and SS. It was also the slowest. So yeah, I think they are choosing words appropriately. Most powerful, not best performing. I already mentioned the auto transmission, I didn't forget it. I said I doubt it will make up for the difference in weight. How am I off on bhp? 707 minus 662 is 45...wouldn't be surprised if WHP is even closer...

The car looks great and I'm sure it drives great, but what I'm saying is...why get excited over 707 hp when it's not going to have impressive performance along with it? Hell I bet a tuned M3/M4 keeps up with this car.

[Sticky]

I'm not hating on it. Just saying it's slow.

My opinion is that you aren't making much sense.

why get excited over 707 hp when it's not going to have impressive performance along with it?

You're simply assuming.

[ezec63]

I'm not hating on it. Just saying it's slow. They already bragged about having the most powerful muscle car in it's class comparing the SRT8 to the GT and SS. It was also the slowest. So yeah, I think they are choosing words appropriately. Most powerful, not best performing. I already mentioned the auto transmission, I didn't forget it. I said I doubt it will make up for the difference in weight. How am I off on bhp? 707 minus 662 is 45...wouldn't be surprised if WHP is even closer...

The car looks great and I'm sure it drives great, but what I'm saying is...why get excited over 707 hp when it's not going to have impressive performance along with it? Hell I bet a tuned M3/M4 keeps up with this car.

LOL saying its slow with 707HP + ridiculous instant torque of a twin screw blower combined with a fast shifting 8 speed that will have a great ratio spread .. were living in a crazy time for power. The 392 hemi before this is not comparable like sticky mentioned I bet it will be a bigger WHP gap with all the underrating going on. The previous srt8 also had a 5 speed slush box that was a very old outdated design the faster shifts and shorter gearing alone would make this a good amount faster with the same motor now add the extra power and torque it will be a beast. You also forget the gt500 is a roots blower which is the most inefficient especially up top and mated to long gearing 6 speed manual. This is a twin screw best of both worlds low end and top end

A tuned m3/4? How about when people do something as simple as a pulley swap and tune? 700whp? Probably at the price for downpipes on the m4. This will be a straight line monster no doubt ! A f10 m5 is the same weight and well down on power vs this look at the numbers its putting down a tuned m3/4 will barely keep up with it never mind this. I really think your underestimating this big time

[andrew20195]

Well the SRT8 392 has 470 hp with a curb weight of 4,371. The hellcat will have 707 horsepower and curb weight of ~4500 pounds. 237 BHP increase. The SRT8 does low 13's stock...I don't think 237bhp increase will help it gain over 2 seconds. Slicks or not. I hope I'm wrong, as I love the styling of the car, probably the best looking and most comfortable of the three for sure. I'm just not holding my breath. I'm honestly expecting mid to high 11s on stock tires. Maybe muster an 11.4 or 11.5 on slicks. We'll see.

The SRT8 392 is actually 200 lbs. lighter than you're quoting. Not sure where you got those numbers. Figure the Hellcat will be maybe 100 lbs. heavier from the supercharger and all that. The 392's run mid to low 12's in the quarter mile if the driver knows what they're doing and conditions are favorable. I don't doubt the Hellcats will break into the 11's. I do think the Shelby will still be the quicker car, however.

[Sticky]

LOL saying its slow with 707HP + ridiculous instant torque of a twin screw blower combined with a fast shifting 8 speed that will have a great ratio spread .. were living in a crazy time for power. The 392 hemi before this is not comparable like sticky mentioned I bet it will be a bigger WHP gap with all the underrating going on. The previous srt8 also had a 5 speed slush box that was a very old outdated design the faster shifts and shorter gearing alone would make this a good amount faster with the same motor now add the extra power and torque it will be a beast. You also forget the gt500 is a roots blower which is the most inefficient especially up top and mated to long gearing 6 speed manual. This is a twin screw best of both worlds low end and top end

A tuned m3/4? How about when people do something as simple as a pulley swap and tune? 700whp? Probably at the price for downpipes on the m4. This will be a straight line monster no doubt ! A f10 m5 is the same weight and well down on power vs this look at the numbers its putting down a tuned m3/4 will barely keep up with it never mind this. I really think your underestimating this big time

EXACTLY and being a twin screw also means you can push that blower further before it gets out of its efficiency range.

This thing is not slow. That is the last thing it is.