Hennessy scared of the competition?

[DBFIU]

Like I said, henny is butthurt. The guy acts like a teenager, no one wants his sorry $#@! anymore.

[ecampbell]

For what it is worth, I believe that ford was built by Hennessey and I am quite sure it does not have a warranty.


I am not stating the venom is a better car than the koen but you guys seem tho think anyone can build a hypercar.

The old stig (Collins) was involved with the road tuning and testing of the car and he said it was the fastest car he had driven. The car received a lot of press on top gear (UK not the crappy U S version) and they were going to run it on the track. The car had been pre-sold and the owner would not give permission.

[ultimateendz]

For what it is worth, I believe that ford was built by Hennessey and I am quite sure it does not have a warranty.


I am not stating the venom is a better car than the koen but you guys seem tho think anyone can build a hypercar.

The old stig (Collins) was involved with the road tuning and testing of the car and he said it was the fastest car he had driven. The car received a lot of press on top gear (UK not the crappy U S version) and they were going to run it on the track. The car had been pre-sold and the owner would not give permission.

The record setting FORD GT (283mph) "BADD GT" is not an HPE car.

[BigM62]

having driven then Venom I can tell you it does more than donuts. People have said for the money they could build something faster...well after all this time no one has done it and they def don't have a warranty on the build.

It might do more than donuts, but those donuts are $#@!e filled, not cream filled.

[Sticky]

For what it is worth, I believe that ford was built by Hennessey and I am quite sure it does not have a warranty.


I am not stating the venom is a better car than the koen but you guys seem tho think anyone can build a hypercar.

The old stig (Collins) was involved with the road tuning and testing of the car and he said it was the fastest car he had driven. The car received a lot of press on top gear (UK not the crappy U S version) and they were going to run it on the track. The car had been pre-sold and the owner would not give permission.

Anybody can not build one but I think what they are saying is there are vastly differently levels of engineering and skill involved in the build of the cars.

[ecampbell]

The record setting FORD GT (283mph) "BADD GT" is not an HPE car.

One of his fords that set the record at the Texas mile in March 2013...that record has now been broken...

[ecampbell]

It might do more than donuts, but those donuts are $#@!e filled, not cream filled.

Repeating my comment about the old stig (Collins), he was very impressed and I would dare say he is a better driver than you or I. What do you know about the car that he dosent?

[ultimateendz]

One of his fords that set the record at the Texas mile in March 2013...that record has now been broken...

Texas mile record is a different car I believe. ..BADD GT is the guiness world record holder. The record was set at the NASA air strip

[ecampbell]

Texas mile record is a different car I believe. ..BADD GT is the guiness world record holder. The record was set at the NASA air strip

gotcha

[BigM62]

Repeating my comment about the old stig (Collins), he was very impressed and I would dare say he is a better driver than you or I. What do you know about the car that he dosent?

I was more referring to all the bs Hennessey put his customers thru.

[Sticky]

I was more referring to all the bs Hennessey put his customers thru.

I don't know how everyone has seemingly forgotten about this. Maybe someone needs to make an article reminding the world what Hennessey did...

[BigM62]

I don't know how everyone has seemingly forgotten about this. Maybe someone needs to make an article reminding the world what Hennessey did...

From another forum, 2coolfishing:

Originally Posted by 24Buds
I don't know much about that. Can you explain?

I've had Vipers for about 6 years. Back not too long ago he screwed over multiple people by getting their money and not doing the work and even selling their car parts without them knowing. Most of this was with people from out of state. Here's just some of the stuff he's done, granted it's been awhile but I would never let him touch my car.

Here's some of the stuff....there has been a lot stuff happen than what's in this article.

Ninety-eight percent of his customers love him, John Hennessey says. But a few hate him and some have sued.Hennessey Motorsports in Houston specializes in tuning Vipers, adding more power to what is already one of the most powerful cars in the world. Hennessey’s Vipers have been featured in this and many other magazines and the cars he has sent to us and to other media were impressive performers. Hennessey presents himself well, projecting an image of the consummate Texas good ol’ boy whose reassuring conversational style and howyewdoin’ demeanor put customers at ease. People believe they will get what he says he’ll give them. But not all people do.


According to a lawsuit filed in Salt Lake City, Utah resident Taig Stewart sent his Viper GTS to Hennessey last May for an engine upgrade to 1100 hp along with several other modifications. For that he wire-transferred $142,500 to Hennessey. The lawsuit states the parties agreed the car would be done by mid-July 2001. As of press time the car was still sitting under a tarp in Hennessey’s shop in Houston. Or most of the car, anyway. Stewart’s suit claims Hennessey sold the car’s engine, transmission, wheels, tires and hood. The suit seeks return of the money, the Viper and “no less than $1 million” in punitive damages.

Hennessey claims he’s just slow in getting the work done.

“My side of the story is we’re planning on finishing his car and planning on giving him everything that he paid for,” said Hennessey. As for the parts being sold, “That’s totally false. We’ve got all his parts in the shop except the hood and he wanted to do a lightweight hood.”

Stewart is not the first unsatisfied customer. The longer we dug the more dissatisfaction we found. Here’s a sampling:

■On Nov. 14 a New Jersey court entered a final judgement of $133,674 against Hennessey on behalf of Viper owner Gary Dan for a botched conversion.

■William Walters said he is out over $22,000 after shipping his Corvette to Hennessey for a head and cam package that was never done; he did have five rods bent and a head gasket damaged on the dyno in Hennessey’s shop during an experiment Hennessey tried with nitrous oxide.

■Jerry Johnson said he had to file suit in Placer County Court in California to straighten out registration and engine computer problems on a Viper he bought from Hennessey. n Jon Belinkie said he loves the changes made to his Viper but had to sue in his home state of Maryland, then register the judgement in Texas, to recover overcharges Hennessey made on his American Express card.

■Rick Ryan said he had to hound Hennessey for eight months by long distance from Marietta, Georgia, to put the proper wing and stripes on his Viper.

■Mark Lublin said he sent his Viper cylinder heads to Hennessey for new valves but when the heads came back he found the “new” valves were actually used; a cam that was delivered to Lublin in a Hennessey box turned out to be a stock Chrysler cam. Lublin was finally refunded $5,715 from American Express but only after nine months of disputing the charge; and he got no money from Hennessey.

■Bruce Iannatuono said he ordered $8,500 worth of Hennessey parts for his mechanic in Baltimore to install but was only able to use two-thirds of what was shipped, and then only after haranguing Hennessey for six months on an order that was originally promised in five weeks.

Most of the complaints come from outside Texas. Hennessey, some said, tends to take better care of local customers.

“If you were out of state, man you were fair game,” said Kyle Kent, a former employee at Hennessey Motorsports. When an out-of-state car came in it was sometimes parted out, with the wheels, tires and whatever else looked good going to other cars waiting to be finished or sold outright, according to Kent and others inside Hennessey Motorsports. Then Hennessey would call the car’s owner and try to sell him an upgraded kit. If the customer balked, Hennessey would take parts from other cars in the shop, or just let the job sit.

Kent described one typical disassembly on an out-of-state Viper. “The motor and transmission went into a Durango John was putting together, the brakes went to someone else, the hood went to a guy in Ohio, the rear bumper to South Carolina, man you name it. We had multiple cars like that.”

Another common practice was putting stock parts on what was supposed to be an upgraded car.

“One customer spent $130,000 to $140,000 and that guy thought he had purchased a Venom 650R package which he thought came with the stroker motor,” Kent said. “John told him he was getting a stroker. He was just getting heads and cams.”

Hennessey denies any wrongdoing.

“I’ve got probably 3000 customers,” he said. “I’ve built over 300 cars and out of that I’ve had a handful of people that I’ve had some sort of a delivery problem with and I’ve had some of them who have sued me. So is that some sort of a trend or is that par for the course?”

[Sticky]

He should not be forgiven and what he did should not be forgotten.

[M5 253]

$#@! hennessey

[M5 253]

Sounds awfully similar to the ASR scenario, ehh?

[inlineS54B32]

Sounds like he makes a decision to pillage when the order comes in. The flow is sorta like this:

Is customer from Texas?
Yes?
Actually do what you say you are going to do for the money customer is giving you.
No?
Screw them. They will likely never figure out what I even did to their car.

A good rule of thumb (at least in my book) - is past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior, regardless of how long ago that past behavior was.

[BigM62]

Sounds like he makes a decision to pillage when the order comes in. The flow is sorta like this:

Is customer from Texas?
Yes?
Actually do what you say you are going to do for the money customer is giving you.
No?
Screw them. They will likely never figure out what I even did to their car.

A good rule of thumb (at least in my book) - is past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior, regardless of how long ago that past behavior was.

Ya I went thru a similar, albeit a smaller"situation" where the quality was not what was promised. And I ignored past behavior that was posted thinking the shop/owner got his sheet together.