Farewell to ESS

[Legionofboom]

Totally disagree. I just takes one picture for someone to link the blow up with ESS. Then the details kind of get filled in by the peanut gallery. Then the irreversable damage is done unless you have a time machine. The internets is great at confusing facts and opinions. Its mostly because PEOPLE don't f'ing read.

For example, try to sell something on E46Fanatics.com in the part out section. I clearly state..."Only selling the parts listed"...I get requests for my windshield (not listed), door seals and other vital parts to the car which are clearly not listed. Then 99% of the time I'll list my paypal address in the FS: thread...what do I get??? What's your PP?

So you take that and apply it to a panicky and pissed off owner or a bystander in an FI blow up and you'll quickly see how it adds up to mass confusion and base (sometimes -less) tuner bashing.

That would be like blaming BMW for a weak block, after doing modifications to it.

I agree that common sense is always lacking, but you can't blame a hardware company (which ESS turned into) for a tune related issue.

[LostMarine]

Well...I think all FI companies are territorial. I know AA wasn't too happy to find out that I put on a Kenny Bell blower when my OPCON Twinscrew got damaged from an engine blow up.

Spotty bad customer service? I think that is the norm with a couple of exceptions.

as i said, show me another platform that does what the bmw tuners do.. and ive dealt with all these companies.. only one behaves the way ive seen stated above.

[Sticky]

For example, try to sell something on E46Fanatics.com in the part out section. I clearly state..."Only selling the parts listed"...I get requests for my windshield (not listed), door seals and other vital parts to the car which are clearly not listed. Then 99% of the time I'll list my paypal address in the FS: thread...what do I get??? What's your PP?

These are just flat out stupid people.

[nafoo]

Totally disagree. I just takes one picture for someone to link the blow up with ESS. Then the details kind of get filled in by the peanut gallery. Then the irreversable damage is done unless you have a time machine. The internets is great at confusing facts and opinions. Its mostly because PEOPLE don't f'ing read.

For example, try to sell something on E46Fanatics.com in the part out section. I clearly state..."Only selling the parts listed"...I get requests for my windshield (not listed), door seals and other vital parts to the car which are clearly not listed. Then 99% of the time I'll list my paypal address in the FS: thread...what do I get??? What's your PP?

So you take that and apply it to a panicky and pissed off owner or a bystander in an FI blow up and you'll quickly see how it adds up to mass confusion and base (sometimes -less) tuner bashing.

Maybe I have been too spoiled by people I've encountered in this forum. But you are right, other forums tend to have pretty stupid people, which I didn't account for.

Touche.

[pokeybritches]

This is such a great post. With it being your first and only post, I have great respect for you already.

Thanks! I'm learning more than anything... big ears, little mouth I guess...

i have yet to hear of anything other than bmw, where software MUST accompany hardware.. noone locks a customer into tuning the car proprietorially just because they have a manifold and bracket on there.. thats all ess developed right..

I agree with you, but I still think they have something to lose if the car goes boom with their hardware.

Nice to see you post.

Happy to join your forums!