From stock to FBO in a weekend?

[Itsbrokeagain]

We tried the mini cooper plugs back in the day. Nothing but a headache...surprised they work now?

[benzy89]

What plugs did you get? Since you're going FBO you should be putting NGK 5992s in gapped to .7mm

Stock Replacement Bosch plugs are fine.... The NGK plugs are just like the Okada coils -- INCREDIBLY overpriced & not worth it unless you regularly track the car. enrita's car goes on the Nurburgring, dzenno usually is testing some very aggressive tune settings (so a misfire would be an unnecessary headache to deal with while tuning) & shiv is running a car that's using more meth than gas when its WOT


I'm using the BMW plugs with my 93 octane & E85 blend ProTunes, never had a misfire AND if the NGK plugs were good for another 100 HP, I'm pretty sure that'd be the 2nd most popular mod after a tune

[Tzu]

I've been looking for these plugs for a while. Any local suppliers in Toronto? Best price I've found is still $20ish over OEM BOSCH replacements...

[uniter]

Stock Replacement Bosch plugs are fine.... The NGK plugs are just like the Okada coils -- INCREDIBLY overpriced & not worth it unless you regularly track the car. enrita's car goes on the Nurburgring, dzenno usually is testing some very aggressive tune settings (so a misfire would be an unnecessary headache to deal with while tuning) & shiv is running a car that's using more meth than gas when its WOT


I'm using the BMW plugs with my 93 octane & E85 blend ProTunes, never had a misfire AND if the NGK plugs were good for another 100 HP, I'm pretty sure that'd be the 2nd most popular mod after a tune

Whoa what??! I paid 11$ each for my 5992s.

Look around on the internet. Amazon has em for 13.79$ a piece. I found them for 12$ shipped on a few websites.

You can get them from any mechanic with a wholesale acct for cheap.

For them to work properly they should be gapped to .7mm

The point of these plugs is safety, not power, more power = hotter engine. Colder plugs help. If you need more information about it consult google or a trusted tuner

@Tzu try your local indy; they'll be able to look them up by this part number or by application: ILZKBR7A-8G / 08 Mini Cooper S

[benzy89]

The point of these plugs is safety, not power, more power = hotter engine. Colder plugs help. If you need more information about it consult google or a trusted tuner

http://www.bimmerboost.com/showthrea...m-first-change

^^Dzenno acknowledges here that the OEM/Bosch plugs are fine, but the NGKs have the benefit of running slightly cooler. IF you're running aftermarket turbos & big power, then it makes sense to upgrade the NGKs. If you're running FBO+Meth/E85, you're fine with the OEMs.

So once again, unless you're regularly tracking or running aftermarket turbos with a very aggressive tune, the OEM plugs are plenty fine.

[uniter]

http://www.bimmerboost.com/showthrea...m-first-change

^^Dzenno acknowledges here that the OEM/Bosch plugs are fine, but the NGKs have the benefit of running slightly cooler. IF you're running aftermarket turbos & big power, then it makes sense to upgrade the NGKs. If you're running FBO+Meth/E85, you're fine with the OEMs.

So once again, unless you're regularly tracking or running aftermarket turbos with a very aggressive tune, the OEM plugs are plenty fine.

I don't know why you're actively 'knocking' colder and safer plugs. These plugs which will lead to less wear on the engine in the long run; regardless of how 'hard' you run your car. They don't cost more than OEMs and they run just as well.

[VNeBLOB42]

I have been running stock replacement plugs since April and Pro E-Tune since beginning of Sept. All is well and no missfires, but then again I am not that aggressive compared to others.

@ATP

How did it go? Did you get it done, I didn't see a post that you did?

[VNeBLOB42]

@ATP

never-mind, didn't read it all you did it on Saturday .

[ATP]

@ATP

never-mind, didn't read it all you did it on Saturday .

Yup, only thing left is plugs but I have not popped a misfire code yet so I may wait. Need to start logging for sure though.

[benzy89]

I don't know why you're actively 'knocking' colder and safer plugs. These plugs which will lead to less wear on the engine in the long run; regardless of how 'hard' you run your car. They don't cost more than OEMs and they run just as well.

Not knocking them, it's just a pain in the ass to have to gap them yourself (or have someone do them). The OEM plugs work fine & you can just swap new ones right in.