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07-01-2012, 06:29 PM #1
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HPF FULL Carbon Fiber BMW E46 Hood
We only build the best and our NEW HPF FULL CARBON FIBER BMW HOOD is no exception to that rule. Our extremely strong Carbon Fiber hood is being built by the same company that builds several of our NEW Carbon Fiber parts. For those who have received them, they will notice that they are EXTREMELY strong, EXTREMELY light, EXTREMELY thin, they fit PERFECT and the finish doesn't fade ever. They've been building extremely complex high quality carbon fiber parts for the aerospace industry for years and have also produced some remarkable hoods that I've seen that meet ALL the requirements listed below and then some. These parts have a much higher melting point as virtually no resin or fiberglass is used and they don't fade even in hotter climates with tons of sun.
The following are our requirements for the HPF BMW E46 Hood.
- It MUST work for most E46's.
- It MUST have strong internal webbing to support the attachment points to the rear hinges so the hood doesn't flex when you open and close it
- It MUST have a super strong hood latch so that no hood pins are needed
- It MUST be fade resistant
- It MUST be blemish free so the hood can be run without paint
- It MUST simply bolt on without modifications
Updates are coming soon.
Chris.
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07-02-2012, 05:44 PM #2
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True indeed.
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DON'T GET CAUGHT WITH YOUR HOOD BLOWING OFF. NO HOOD PINS REQUIRED WITH THE NEW HPF CARBON FIBER BMW E46 HOOD.
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07-02-2012, 07:29 PM #3
Chris moving this to 3 Series -> E46 since it is a body piece.
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07-02-2012, 07:29 PM #4
Definitely need pics of this hood btw...
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07-02-2012, 08:12 PM #5
lol where re the pics?
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07-03-2012, 02:23 AM #6
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07-03-2012, 04:43 AM #7
Chris, Lets see some pics. I might be interested
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07-04-2012, 05:05 PM #8
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Nice!
The E46 M3 market needs higher quality CF products. I have been talking to a couple manufacturers to see if they could build stuff too, but it seems like you are already invested in doing so. Great news!
I wish I could join the Group Buy, but I am actually looking for something that looks 100% OE and a lot lighter. Either way, I can't wait to see what you all design!2002 E46 M3 6MT | Jet Black . Black Nappa | My GermanBoost Build Thread
2009 E90 M3 DCT | Melbourne Red . Speed Cloth
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07-05-2012, 02:07 AM #9
EURO 04 M3 Current Mods:GC DAs, Eibach Sways, PF RTAB's, RE RCAs, INTRAVEE II, Black Roundels, ///MFEST Badges, Depo's, Screen protector for NAV display, VCSL Bumper + Race Lip & CF Trunk & CF Rear Diffusor, DIETZ TV in Motion, SS= V1 Headers + catless pipes + X-Pipe + SS Sport Exhaust, Z8 Starter Button, Lamin-X, OEM CSL interior, OEM CSL Steering, OEM CSL Intake, OEM CSL Roof, MSS54HP + OEM CSL Tune, BBS CH's, LIGHTWERKZ, 355mm ST40 BBK, BW Oil Cooler....
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07-05-2012, 04:02 PM #10
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07-05-2012, 04:02 PM #11
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07-06-2012, 09:42 PM #12
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2002 E46 M3 6MT | Jet Black . Black Nappa | My GermanBoost Build Thread
2009 E90 M3 DCT | Melbourne Red . Speed Cloth
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07-07-2012, 04:33 AM #13
Come on Chris! You killing us. Pics pics pics
EURO 04 M3 Current Mods:GC DAs, Eibach Sways, PF RTAB's, RE RCAs, INTRAVEE II, Black Roundels, ///MFEST Badges, Depo's, Screen protector for NAV display, VCSL Bumper + Race Lip & CF Trunk & CF Rear Diffusor, DIETZ TV in Motion, SS= V1 Headers + catless pipes + X-Pipe + SS Sport Exhaust, Z8 Starter Button, Lamin-X, OEM CSL interior, OEM CSL Steering, OEM CSL Intake, OEM CSL Roof, MSS54HP + OEM CSL Tune, BBS CH's, LIGHTWERKZ, 355mm ST40 BBK, BW Oil Cooler....
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07-09-2012, 01:45 PM #14
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07-09-2012, 01:45 PM #15
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07-12-2012, 01:28 PM #16
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07-18-2012, 12:25 PM #17
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We met with the company yesterday that is building our carbon fiber hoods. We have assembled a great team of minds to attack this project and will be bringing an amazing product to market. We are taking a "real" look at aeromdynamics of this hood and hope to improve downforce, improve flow through the engine area w/increased cooling, and reduce the pressure gradient that cause some of the aftermarket hoods to shake wildly at high speeds and want to blow off
. We are also bringing forward a class "BMW" looking race design that I think will impress. It is similar to other hoods but takes everything one or two steps further. The underside will utilize carbon fiber as well so when you open your hood, it will look amazing underneath. The hood will NOT require hood pins to stay on the car. The hood will have reinforcements for the hinge and attachment areas and will not flex in those areas when opening and closing the hood. The hood will fit perfect every time and will be made here in the US.
I may raise the retail price of this hood over $1,995 once we release it. However... I will guarantee the group buy price of $1,650 to everyone that pre-orders. I will have pictures up next week so stay tuned.
Chris.
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07-18-2012, 09:43 PM #18BRAND NEW IN BOX 991.2 standard/non-pse SPW cat bypass pipe for sale - $899 shipped
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07-18-2012, 10:40 PM #19
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08-02-2012, 03:30 PM #20
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We met with the company that is designing and building our carbon fiber hoods earlier this week. They brought a lot of great ideas. The drawings below are their conceptual ideas before they take it to CAD. I'd like to hear your freeback on these concepts below and the hood designs as I want to maximize the overall market for our hoods.
My Requirements
- It MUST be AGRESSIVE!!
- It MUST work for most E46's.
- It MUST have strong internal webbing to support the attachment points to the rear hinges so the hood doesn't flex when you open and close it
- It MUST have a super strong hood latch so that no hood pins are needed
- It MUST have venting on both sides
- It MUST be fade resistant
- It MUST be blemish free so the hood can be run without paint
- It MUST simply bolt on without modifications
- Vents should be less wide but more of them
- Vents should be in a location that doesn't affect the electronics
- Hood should seal to the rubber strip at the top of the hood that seals in the electronics.
- HPF Should be embossed on the underside of the hood in a clean manner that is noticeable if you look but doesn't stand out
Their Ideas
- The aftermarket hoods on the market are simply a copy of the factory hood and can be better designed using the full capabilities of composites and re-designing the hood from scratch.
- With the center section lowered and the webbing removed like it is on some aftermarket hoods, the torsional reinforcement is gone. This causes the fluttering of the hood in the back.
- Torsion beams on the underside of the hood must tie the rear hinge points to the front hinge points. These designs are shown in the pictures below.
- Core material should be designed into the hood to provide these torsion beams. This core material is extremely lightweight and provides extreme rigity.
- Some hood designs below also add a structural reinforcement on top of the hood (the lip running from side to side) as well to make it extremely strong and also provide downforce.
- Molded in vents should be produced in such a way that they are sharp and clear cut. Other aftermarket hoods have vents that have slow radiused curves into the vents which makes them look not as aggressive.
- The sides of the hood should retain the original 4 rubber bump stops that allow the hood to lock in snugly against the body of the car.
- The underside of the hood should be as amazing to look at as the top side. You can see separation between the top and bottom parts of the hood on many of these aftermarket hoods out there and as a result the hoods are not as strong. When the hood is designed as one composite piece you get an extremely strong hood that is very lightweight.
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08-02-2012, 03:40 PM #21
I'm digging this one:
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08-02-2012, 03:55 PM #22
EURO 04 M3 Current Mods:GC DAs, Eibach Sways, PF RTAB's, RE RCAs, INTRAVEE II, Black Roundels, ///MFEST Badges, Depo's, Screen protector for NAV display, VCSL Bumper + Race Lip & CF Trunk & CF Rear Diffusor, DIETZ TV in Motion, SS= V1 Headers + catless pipes + X-Pipe + SS Sport Exhaust, Z8 Starter Button, Lamin-X, OEM CSL interior, OEM CSL Steering, OEM CSL Intake, OEM CSL Roof, MSS54HP + OEM CSL Tune, BBS CH's, LIGHTWERKZ, 355mm ST40 BBK, BW Oil Cooler....
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09-05-2012, 08:41 PM #23
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Thanks for the feedback everyone. I'm making my final decision by 1pm tomorrow (Thursday). Here's the direction I'm leaning after evaluating everything. I'm not going to be able to please everyone on this hood so my goal is to get the highest percentage of people wanting to buy it. So keep that in mind. I want to meet all of the requirements I mentioned and provide the highest quality hood on the market. Based on the feedback I've received I think I'm "not" going to have any side vents in the hood. They don't serve any "real" aerodynamic benefit, they allow water to get into the engine bay unless you block them off which is a pain to do and negates the benefit, and manufacturers aren't putting them into high performance cars either. I like the powerdome idea but I prefer the recessed look. So I'm thinking of making the center powerdome area follow the same lines as it does on the factory M3 but recessing the center section like it is on the HPF M3 with a vent for cooling that can be closed up if necessary. I'm also considering smoothing the sharp edges on line that goes from the front corner of the windshield to the kidney grill.
This is you last chance to help us with your feedback so please let me know what you think. Thanks.
Chris.
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09-06-2012, 02:34 AM #24
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