JAWS Motorsport M5 E60 Makes 518WHP

[Sticky]

The MAP ruins everything. That's why we don't see 70whp gains in S65 even with the most aggressive tunes. Time to have a real Alpha-N for S65.

The gains for a 100 hp per liter motor are pretty good.

[onurleft]

race teams have run mostly stock S65's with standalone map based tunes and gotten well over 400whp, so expect something to follow for our street cars and OEM units eventually (like my car)

[0-60Motorsports]

Thats a nice looking plenum

[Sorena]

The gains for a 100 hp per liter motor are pretty good.

Still not as good as S85. What bothers me is that BMW took S85 design and made it better with S65. Much better headers, exhaust, tune but after all, the 100hp/liter ratio only raised to 103.5hp/liter!

race teams have run mostly stock S65's with standalone map based tunes and gotten well over 400whp, so expect something to follow for our street cars and OEM units eventually (like my car)

Your car is very sick man. Did you use stock DME or went fully standalone?

[Sticky]

Still not as good as S85. What bothers me is that BMW took S85 design and made it better with S65. Much better headers, exhaust, tune but after all, the 100hp/liter ratio only raised to 103.5hp/liter! Your car is very sick man. Did you use stock DME or went fully standalone?

The hp per liter and torque per liter numbers don't point to it being all that much better. Wasn't the s85 dry sump too? All they really improved were the headers which they needed to due to the displacement loss and they improved the knock detection.

[Sonny]

Great results.

What is the accepted drive train loss on this platform. Does this car have the smg gearbox?

[Sorena]

What is the accepted drive train loss on this platform. Does this car have the smg gearbox?

Mostly %17-18 on DJ. The car does have SMG gearbox like all the other non-US E60 M5's.

The hp per liter and torque per liter numbers don't point to it being all that much better.

Exactly my words. Look at S85, with SS headers you gain 50hp. But on S65, SS said it's close to zero. Only M24 claimed a 20hp gain which isn't proven yet. So it means the difference between S65 and S85 should be bigger than 3.5hp more per liter, but it isn't...

[Sticky]

Great results.

What is the accepted drive train loss on this platform. Does this car have the smg gearbox?

Figure it is an SMG considering the 6-speed was USA only (heh, how about that?) and stock they are in the 420's on dynojet's from what I have seen but that is with charcoals in place and no scoops.

[Sonny]

Mostly %17-18 on DJ. The car does have SMG gearbox like all the other non-US E60 M5's.

Thank you.

[Sonny]

Figure it is an SMG considering the 6-speed was USA only (heh, how about that?) and stock they are in the 420's on dynojet's from what I have seen but that is with charcoals in place and no scoops.

Thanks. Strong car. I wonder if the s85's already impressive top end gets even better with this setup. Seems likely.

[Sticky]

Thanks. Strong car. I wonder if the s85's already impressive top end gets even better with this setup. Seems likely.

Definitely will be stronger up top.

[flipm3]

Nice! I freaking love the S85B50....

[0-60Motorsports]

WHats the price on the airbox alone?

[JAWS Motorsport]

WHats the price on the airbox alone?

We have said approx $4k , but we need to sit down and do a real overlook, its many hours of work on it, and it seems like many want it now so interested better send us an email and put theire name on the que.

[0-60Motorsports]

We have said approx $4k , but we need to sit down and do a real overlook, its many hours of work on it, and it seems like many want it now so interested better send us an email and put theire name on the que.

Ok Thanks but too over priced for me. Good work though.

[JAWS Motorsport]

Ok Thanks but too over priced for me. Good work though.

Tnx, i belive we are so cheap on the coming headers so we need to earn money somewere on all hard work we put down in our products!

[LostMarine]

can someone remind me what they dyno stock?

[Sticky]

Ok Thanks but too over priced for me. Good work though.

The airbox is one piece and a complete replacement so not cheap.

Their tune and upcoming headers though are priced pretty darn well.

[Sticky]

can someone remind me what they dyno stock?

Dynojet around 420 with charcoals in place. The baseline here was around 450 but with scoops.

[LostMarine]

Dynojet around 420 with charcoals in place. The baseline here was around 450 but with scoops.

damn, thats well worth it then, and headers are still to come?

[JAWS Motorsport]

damn, thats well worth it then, and headers are still to come?

Yeah, first version we did didnt fit as good as we wanted, so we had to get back to the drawing board!!

[Sticky]

damn, thats well worth it then, and headers are still to come?

Yes, headers plus full exhaust. So they will pick up more.

[Sticky]

Yeah, first version we did didnt fit as good as we wanted, so we had to get back to the drawing board!!

How long until you have these?

[JAWS Motorsport]

How long until you have these?

They should have been done long time ago, now they are almost ready but i cannot say a date..we must put them on our car and dyno it first, so the power output from headers only will only be a guess at first point :/

[Sticky]

They should have been done long time ago, now they are almost ready but i cannot say a date..we must put them on our car and dyno it first, so the power output from headers only will only be a guess at first point :/

I understand, looking forward to it.