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Well i guess your argument would make sense if cars NEVER sold below msrp either but they do, is that a dealership burning money? Or is under msrp just the "market value" therefore thats what the cars sell for.
Under MSRP is still above invoice so the dealer is making money regardless. The cars have a set manufacturer value. Homes do not work the same way. My house does not have an MSRP. It fluctuates based on what similar homes in the same area sell for as well as interest rates.

Banks don't hand out 0% mortgages last I checked?

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As far as your Realestate argument that also makes no sense, the fact of the house appreciating or depreciating is irrelevant to my point, when you buy a house whether the value has gone up or down you try and sell if for as MUCH as you can at that moment NOT what ever its actually worth.
The real estate argument regarding how it is not the same thing makes complete sense. Your point is general in that an item is worth whatever someone will pay for it. Sure, that makes sense.

However, I'm not going to pay over the manufacturer price for an Iphone. I'm not going to do it for a TV. I'm not going to do it for a car either.

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You also ignored my point about flippers, should they be able to buy a gt3 rs or any other hot car and sell it for a 100k more??
Sure, if they can get the money. You're saying if they can the dealer should be able to too. I'm saying anyone paying over MSRP for an M4 GTS is absolutely an idiot. It's not even worth MSRP. That holds no matter what artificial bubble dealers try to create for it.