Anyone know of installs of the following on US based BMWs and if the S/C is as durable as the Vf Superchargers ?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Supercharger...3aa387&vxp=mtr
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Anyone know of installs of the following on US based BMWs and if the S/C is as durable as the Vf Superchargers ?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Supercharger...3aa387&vxp=mtr
This kit looks a little strange. At first glance, great, but then zip ties?
I think the zip ties are just to hold some (sliced) silicone piping around some electrical cables.
It's quite a bit of money for an unknown kit with not so much documentation (no details of the construction of the air2water cooler on the compressor itself), but if you look at this I think it picks up speed pretty nicely. Nice torque through the power band (@ 1:30min):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbyFy8SaC7k&feature=player_detailpage# t=88s
yeah, I was just curious as that "brand" has some nice stuff but this looks like a backyard operation bolt on
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Originally Posted by GuidoK
It would be nice if the designer of the sc setup would give some information about his system.
All available sets have been designed with centrifugal superchargers afaik
I think the m62 engine should be very well suited for a volumetric supercharger as it is a very torqie and low revving engine.
The eaton m112 is a commercially/oem used supercharger, and as a volumetric supercharger runs at much lower revs. So it probably doesn't get more durable than this. (the supercharter that is; the cooling, brackets etc I don't know)Quote:
Originally Posted by Group.america
The kit would probably look a lot better if black silicone hoses were used. The rubber isulation boot (with the tie wraps) wouldn't be so much noticable too..
I'm not sure what kind of ecu is included. The housing looks stock (apart from the blue color obviously) but there's a booklet and a usb? cable.....
I think the ECU included is a K-data M60 kdfi (alpha-N):
http://www.k-data.org/kdfi-pnp-bmw-m60.html
Nice to throw in a $650 ecu on that price.
I don't know about that... I would stay away. There isn't enough info to go on.
There are other M62 options with a known track record.
It would be nice to have more info on that kit indeed. A dyno run+afr info on a dynojet for comparison would be nice :)
When I read the ad twice, I'm not sure if you get the ecu included or not....
And as always: support is everything. Especially on the ecu tune....
It's too ambiguous IMO and software is key with forced induction on BMW's.Quote:
Originally Posted by GuidoK
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Originally Posted by Sticky
Thanks... was looking at it when tinkering with idea of adding S/C to 540 but it looked a bit nefarious
But I think they're all centrifugal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sticky
All volumetric installs I know of are custom projects; no readily available kits.
Maybe the v8 isn't that suitable for a volumetric install. There's not much room in the V if you want the charger seated there, and some cooling and a nice plenum......
They are all centrifugal unfortunately but they work well.Quote:
Originally Posted by GuidoK
@THATDONFC has a very nice centri manifold you need to see...
Ill post some pics of Jim's engine bay as soon as I button her up. Ran into a few fuel rail issues today but I should have her ready tomorrow.
I asked for the installation instructions, but he said he had an issue where someone had stolen his plans and then copied his system. He only finally sent me the instructions after I negotiated a price and paid for his system. He said it'll take about a month to get made and shipped, so I've got more time to keep doing research. I've got the instruction in my email via a Word document, but like all other conversations with him, it's a very poor German to English translation via Google Translate. Anyone w/ suggestions as to where I can post the instructions and then be able to link onto forums for free?
I'll gladly host them for you @m5jamesQuote:
Originally Posted by m5james
Mind you these instructions contain old pics (you can see newer tubing and other design changes on current eBay adds) and is a VERY poor German to English translation, here are the installation instructions - http://static.daom.nl/e38_eaton112compressor.pdf I'v asked him for the German version to which I'll post also, then I'll have a friend translate it for me in person and see if we can post something more easily understood. Once my friend and I do the install, I fully intend to document EVERYTHING and see about even re-writing the instructions for this guy.
Hello everybody im new to this so be easy on me! I too have this kit. It doesnt look all that bad but it did take almost 3months to get to me. The seller did not send me directions so rite now just bin tring to get ahold of the seller but he doesn not answer back! Guess he figures he got my 4 grand so who cares. Has anybody installed this kit yet and have any understandable instructions
I find it crazy you guys are buying a no-name supercharger kit that hasn't been tried and tested.
I don't know what you determine as proven, but there are videos of running versions of this kit in all 3 stages he's created. I've discussed in naussem as to why I've gotten this kit (most importantly roots > centrifugal), but at the end of the day, 90% of his kit is in fact proven being the Eaton M112 supercharger itself. He's taken a proven supercharger and intake plenum, made some adapter plates and then added a RRFRP to get fuel. I agree it's not perfect, but I'm fully capable of fixing whatever may come up after installation..by biggest concern is fuel delivery and tuning. At this point, I've paid $4200 for throttle provisions for bot a non-VANOS 98 740iL and VANOS X5 vehicle, a completely rebuilt and powercoated supercharger, is adapter plates and parts for intercooling...things I probably could have done myself, but he's done it for me, leaving me to tie up the loose ends. Even if I put $1000 into additional effort into it, it's still cheaper than a VF or Dinan kit, and no matter what the power deleivery of this supercharger is wildly different than a centrifugal - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXVyweyoPfE
My DD for the moment, a Harley F150 used that same M112 supercharger at I've upgraded to a twin screw Kenne Bell pushing well over 600hp. I'll never be able to get those numbers in my X5, maybe in my 740iL, but it's still a better supercharger than the Vortech...in my opinion.
Get blown ITT
Ebay Supercharger kits
M60/M62/S62 Turbo - Who want's it bad enough?
E39 E38 E39 M62/M62TU supercharger kit for sale
http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...t-germany.html
You have a V8 for God's sake, I don't know why you just wouldn't build that up and use a CF for the top end. It's not like you have a 4 or 6 cylinder that needs a turbo or Roots. If you need torque down low, you need a better engine.
Actually, turbo is good for better gas mileage. S/C has way too much parasitic drain. When I drive my 540i now, I can can see the gas gauge go down 1/4 tank after 65 miles. Hopefully a new tune will help, but thanks that it is only my week-end car.
Very true.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigM62
I think sticky means the kit as a whole. Especially the dme tuning/injectors etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by m5james
I'm sure sticky knows the commercial implementations of the m112 and that it's about as indestructible as they come. The biggest challenge is the tuning.
But with all these kits: support is verything. That said, someone was also the first to try a AA kit or ESS kit.
Need for torque down low depends on the drive ratio. The choice of CF or volumetric is imho more based on how the engine's used/suited. An engine that loves to rev (and is used in that way) is more suitable for a CF.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigM62
Is a 540i such a car/engine? (personally I think not)
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by GuidoK