Renntech N54 camshafts

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05-20-2014, 06:31 PM
Flinchy

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Originally Posted by fastgti69

I just want some cams and valvesprings or w/e so I can rev her out more. That ported head yea but not for 4k. I'd probably save that for when the motor will be built if the head has to come off....

valvetrain parts + remove head yourself + get reinstalled and timed would set you back a sight less than $4k if you have a GOOD shop locally... plus, larger valve options than what VAC offers.

$4k isn't too bad if it's taken pretty far, the valvetrain parts total probably close to $2k.
05-20-2014, 06:32 PM
Flinchy

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Originally Posted by Sticky

People always say cams are easy to do but when it comes to BMW's it seems to be only Schrick that can get it done.

the thing is, catcams, the company that said they were a month out.. already offer VANOS cams... I don't think the N54 offers anything really new?

and still wondering why the heck schrick hasn't stepped up, i've sent them a few emails and not got a single reply.
05-20-2014, 06:36 PM
Payam@BMS

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Originally Posted by SSO95

What do you think you'd be able to safely rev out to? 7400-7500? More?

I see people rev 7300 stock. I don't see why 8k isnt realistic with a proper build and head job.

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Originally Posted by Flinchy

valvetrain parts + remove head yourself + get reinstalled and timed would set you back a sight less than $4k if you have a GOOD shop locally... plus, larger valve options than what VAC offers.

$4k isn't too bad if it's taken pretty far, the valvetrain parts total probably close to $2k.

Well labor is only 4k for the port job from VAC. I have local guys that can do it for half as well, but it's still a pretty penny. The end of this year we will start seeing some 1000whp N54s. With VAC head job, and the new HPFP from vargas and all these kits coming out. It's only a matter of time, I can see the handful of us on this site joining that power level soon.
05-20-2014, 06:54 PM
Sticky

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Originally Posted by Flinchy

and still wondering why the heck schrick hasn't stepped up, i've sent them a few emails and not got a single reply.

Schrick is only interested in big $ runs. Trying to get them to do small runs or one offs is a bitch.
05-20-2014, 07:02 PM
Flinchy

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Originally Posted by Sticky

Schrick is only interested in big $ runs. Trying to get them to do small runs or one offs is a bitch.

looking at the list of BMW cams they make.. there's sure as hell some that sell less than N54 ones will....

The market is only growing for them at this stage, the more people going built motor/heads/big turbos/big power... if they're already spending tens of thousands and shooting high, why wouldn't they get cams?

don't understand why they'd only do a small run or one off :/
05-20-2014, 07:03 PM
Flinchy

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Originally Posted by fastgti69

I see people rev 7300 stock. I don't see why 8k isnt realistic with a proper build and head job.

Well labor is only 4k for the port job from VAC. I have local guys that can do it for half as well, but it's still a pretty penny. The end of this year we will start seeing some 1000whp N54s. With VAC head job, and the new HPFP from vargas and all these kits coming out. It's only a matter of time, I can see the handful of us on this site joining that power level soon.

i agree with 8k. won't know until someone tries imo.

and the stage 3 head includes valves/springs/retainers in the $4k price tag as far as i can tell.
05-20-2014, 07:13 PM
Sticky

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Originally Posted by Flinchy

looking at the list of BMW cams they make.. there's sure as hell some that sell less than N54 ones will....

The market is only growing for them at this stage, the more people going built motor/heads/big turbos/big power... if they're already spending tens of thousands and shooting high, why wouldn't they get cams?

don't understand why they'd only do a small run or one off :/

Preaching the choir. I'm not in charge over there.
05-20-2014, 07:22 PM
Payam@BMS

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Originally Posted by Flinchy

i agree with 8k. won't know until someone tries imo.

and the stage 3 head includes valves/springs/retainers in the $4k price tag as far as i can tell.

Interesting, I guess it's not too bad. Just gotta give your own head for a while without a car.
05-20-2014, 08:00 PM
Flinchy

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Originally Posted by Sticky

Preaching the choir. I'm not in charge over there.

dammit sticky, your world domination plan is too slow. chop chop!
05-20-2014, 08:02 PM
Flinchy

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Originally Posted by fastgti69

Interesting, I guess it's not too bad. Just gotta give your own head for a while without a car.

yeah

I'm pretty sure my head will end up costing me $1500-2k in labour pretty easily :/. Don't want 11/10ths or anything, but.. you know, haha.
05-20-2014, 08:08 PM
Sticky

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Originally Posted by Flinchy

dammit sticky, your world domination plan is too slow. chop chop!

I'm working on it!
05-25-2014, 05:53 PM
Alucard335

At which whp are those shafts needed?
05-25-2014, 06:02 PM
Flinchy

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Originally Posted by Alucard335

At which whp are those shafts needed?

no one knows, they don't exist, no dynos or public testing

stock cams have made ~750whp... there's obviously plenty left in them especially with a ported head

But IMO, every little bit helps.. just even slightly more aggressive, bit more lift/duration, keep stock like idle and drivability with the magic of VANOS, breathe a bit better up top for the guys pushing.

people will be spending 20k++ on everything for these motors, $1500-$2k for cams and the benefits they provide is pretty much a no brainer i think.

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