Article: Apples to apples to E90/E92 M3 S65 V8 supercharger kit race comparison - Evolve Automotive versus ESS-Tuning supercharger kits

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08-20-2013, 07:13 PM
Group.america

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Originally Posted by Imran@Evolve

Thanks for sharing the videos and good job on the install. Hopefully some more coming your way soon. The Rotrex really shines low end as well as top end and this is the reason why we chose it.

LOW END is key with S/C.... I like it .... bloody great effort guys
08-20-2013, 07:34 PM
Group.america

STICKY - How do these cars specs compare to the GINTANI modded E9x

Thx.. great videos and thread
08-20-2013, 07:38 PM
Group.america

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Originally Posted by Sticky

A supercharged M3 will pull on GTR's that haven't been massaged enough up top.

:music-rockout:
08-20-2013, 07:48 PM
Sticky

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Originally Posted by Group.america

STICKY - How do these cars specs compare to the GINTANI modded E9x

Thx.. great videos and thread

They will all be close. If you go with a Vortech T-Trim it will move a little more air up top and have more potential. The Vortech stock internal kits will all be very similar depending on options, fuel, tune, etc.
08-21-2013, 09:02 PM
LostMarine

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Originally Posted by Group.america

STICKY - How do these cars specs compare to the GINTANI modded E9x

Thx.. great videos and thread

I should be running a gintani Stg 2 shortly :)
08-21-2013, 09:31 PM
TZ04XJR

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Originally Posted by LostMarine

I should be running a gintani Stg 2 shortly :)

Don't tease us bro! haha
08-22-2013, 06:26 AM
LostMarine

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Originally Posted by TZ04XJR

Don't tease us bro! haha

not a tease, a stg2 DCT car, no meth i believe :) should be fun times as usual
10-24-2013, 05:13 PM
nafoo

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Originally Posted by LostMarine

not a tease, a stg2 DCT car, no meth i believe :) should be fun times as usual

Did this happen yet?
10-24-2013, 05:20 PM
LostMarine

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Originally Posted by nafoo

Did this happen yet?

not yet :)
10-24-2013, 06:54 PM
nafoo

Did you ever confirm which ESS kit he was running?
10-24-2013, 07:29 PM
inlineS54B32

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Originally Posted by LostMarine

shifts at the start? what timestamp? i see that one car makes more power earlier and smoother and pulls away hard when it shifts.. but nothing to indicate a bad run..

i mean, I have a potent combination on my car-
an Evolve boosted S65 with early and smooth boost, a Defiv Lockdown kit that produces firm strong shifts every-time, and nice 18" lightweight wheels.. I did more with a 6psi ESS 550 kit than most do with an ESS 600, and this Evolve 6 PSI kit just rapes it in every comparison. there's nothing wrong with an honorable loss :)

Have you reviewed the Defiv lockdown kit? Curious about this. I stiffened things up with urethane bushings, and am curious if this made shifts genuinely sharper for you. Did you have stock bushings pre install?

Cheers.
10-24-2013, 08:22 PM
LostMarine

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Originally Posted by nafoo

Did you ever confirm which ESS kit he was running?

AT this point i dont even car, he told me 600, then it was posted as 650, then the video before says 625, another 650 ect ect.. All I know is he was a cool guy and is down to run again. I would assume he is at least a 625 now if not 650, ill ask him. I look forward to the next one, hopefully lose so i have a reason to upgrade - the next level Evolve kit has to be nuts if this one is so sick :)

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Originally Posted by inlineS54B32

Have you reviewed the Defiv lockdown kit? Curious about this. I stiffened things up with urethane bushings, and am curious if this made shifts genuinely sharper for you. Did you have stock bushings pre install?

Cheers.

BRO! The @rick@defiv kit is the SHIT!

Ive said it before and ill say it again, ALL my shifts are super tight and the car jumps forward. @M&M and I had a discussion before about nailing the shift points perfectly and the car jumps, well.. it does it everytime. That alone was well worth the price. I have YET to have ANY wheel hop in ANY situation Ive put it through. Its a MUST for DCT cars and very very very highly reccomended for 6MT cars.

http://www.60-130.com/images/importe...60130MPH-1.jpg

if you follow green accel line, the first "shake" you see is wheelspin on the 2-3 shift, after that you see 2 different spikes, those are at the shifts, thats what the defiv does everytime :)

performance wise, my car has all the right pieces now - minus BBK - that it needs to be absolute perfection. Custom paint and im done.. until i see this set of cams come to fruition ;)
10-24-2013, 08:38 PM
benzy89

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Originally Posted by LostMarine

until i see this set of cams come to fruition ;)

Forum rumors say evolve has a non-publicized cam tune for S65s???? Would be awesome to see how/if a boosted S65 would respond.
10-25-2013, 11:46 AM
LostMarine

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Originally Posted by benzy89

Forum rumors say evolve has a non-publicized cam tune for S65s???? Would be awesome to see how/if a boosted S65 would respond.

another 20-30hp at same boost would be awesome ;)
10-25-2013, 01:21 PM
inlineS54B32

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Originally Posted by LostMarine

AT this point i dont even car, he told me 600, then it was posted as 650, then the video before says 625, another 650 ect ect.. All I know is he was a cool guy and is down to run again. I would assume he is at least a 625 now if not 650, ill ask him. I look forward to the next one, hopefully lose so i have a reason to upgrade - the next level Evolve kit has to be nuts if this one is so sick :)

BRO! The @rick@defiv kit is the $#@!!

Ive said it before and ill say it again, ALL my shifts are super tight and the car jumps forward. @M&M and I had a discussion before about nailing the shift points perfectly and the car jumps, well.. it does it everytime. That alone was well worth the price. I have YET to have ANY wheel hop in ANY situation Ive put it through. Its a MUST for DCT cars and very very very highly reccomended for 6MT cars.

http://www.60-130.com/images/im...60130MPH-1.jpg

if you follow green accel line, the first "shake" you see is wheelspin on the 2-3 shift, after that you see 2 different spikes, those are at the shifts, thats what the defiv does everytime :)

performance wise, my car has all the right pieces now - minus BBK - that it needs to be absolute perfection. Custom paint and im done.. until i see this set of cams come to fruition ;)

Nice - this might be on my upgrade list. I am staying NA, but will be adding more and more as I go without a rush. It's my DD, so I hate not being able to drive it. Point is, I was curious how it felt vs. a bushings upgrade - and am glad it made a noticeable difference.

P.S. - Not sure if you ever looked into it, but for guys like you and @Sticky who are into running your cars often - Turner Motorsport sells some badass bushings for our car. You can get a solid aluminum bushing for the DCT Transmission and the Engine to ensure you have almost no power loss through the chassis. I never heard any reviews of it, and it's for "race use only" - but so is most of the crap we put on our car. I am just waiting to hear someone's review :)
10-25-2013, 02:13 PM
benzy89

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Originally Posted by LostMarine

another 20-30hp at same boost would be awesome ;)

Well (if it's true), you could combine the Scrick cams & Supersprint/Evolve S65 Headers, maybe pick up another 50 HP AND not have to worry about torturing the block since you haven't added any boost

= WINNING

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